vxbush 6/3/2021 5:56:30 AM

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Fancy breakfast this morning. Good morning, campers. Response to OR and buzz in the Frontier. 

I don't know about anyone else, but as we emerge from the insanity of this last year, it seems the idea of simple politeness has been completely eliminated from society. I crossed paths with someone at my company yesterday, and I just wanted to briefly chat and ask how she was doing. She said, "Hi. Bye." and ran off. That was it. No interest to be polite at all.

Kosh's Shadow 6/3/2021 6:04:10 AM

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Reply to vxbush in 1:

A lot of the lack of chatting is the social distancing we've gotten used to.

vxbush 6/3/2021 6:38:52 AM

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In #2 Kosh's Shadow said: A lot of the lack of chatting is the social distancing we've gotten used to.

I'm pretty introverted, although I can play an extrovert if I have to. So while I have loved not having to deal with as many people in person, I'm still old-school enough to think that general politeness would require at least an attempt at being civil. Silly me. 

And now for something completely different--using microbes to clean Michaelangelo's works. 

Kosh's Shadow 6/3/2021 6:44:18 AM

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In #3 vxbush said: I'm still old-school enough to think that general politeness would require at least an attempt at being civil. Silly me. 

I think people have gotten used to the idea you can't spend time chatting or you could get COVID. The fearmongering of the MSM and government didn't help.

buzzsawmonkey 6/3/2021 6:48:27 AM

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Let's see...the government is going after the Sacklers and Purdue Pharma for "the opioid epidemic," i.e., their production and promotion and sale of a legal product that was administered by legitimate doctors, yet they've left the border wide open for drug cartels to bring in illegal and non-quality-controlled opioids by the trailerful.  

Can someone explain this to me?

vxbush 6/3/2021 6:48:34 AM

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In #4 Kosh's Shadow said: I think people have gotten used to the idea you can't spend time chatting or you could get COVID. The fearmongering of the MSM and government didn't help.

I may earn this tinfoil hat, but I really do think there's some justification to the thought that the government didn't want people talking to each other leading up to the election. The claim of being in the middle of a pandemic (questionable, but I was willing to take this at face value last year) and trying to get people to calm down (and their rhetoric did anything but do that) and then take away people's first amendment rights to churches as a place of comfort? In the eyes of reason, that makes absolutely no sense. In the eyes of leftism, that is completely rational. 

PaladinPhil 6/3/2021 6:57:43 AM

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Kosh's Shadow 6/3/2021 6:58:32 AM

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In #5 buzzsawmonkey said: Let's see...the government is going after the Sacklers and Purdue Pharma for "the opioid epidemic," i.e., their production and promotion and sale of a legal product that was administered by legitimate doctors, yet they've left the border wide open for drug cartels to bring in illegal and non-quality-controlled opioids by the trailerful.  

That is crazy, yes. The MSM claims that the legal drugs caused a lot of people to get addicted to opioids and then turn to illegal ones, but I have indirectly heard that the actual addicts don't say that; they admit it is the illegal ones that are the problem.

Also, it is MUCH harder to get strong pain medication for those who do need it.

However, there is evidence that even the legal ones could cause addiction and the pharmaceutical companies paid researchers to write papers that they did not. But I believe that a short use of them is not the problem (heroin addicts say you don't get addicted right away), long term use is a problem.

buzzsawmonkey 6/3/2021 7:08:31 AM

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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 8:

I find it interesting that the Left, which is yammering up one side of the street and down the other about the Evils of Opioids, has worked so hard to obscure the fact that George Floyd actually died from a self-administered opioid (fentanyl) overdose.  Of course, the importance of the Floyd Narrative was to justify attacks on police and to further the 2020 riots, so they had to downplay the Evils of Opioids aspect.

vxbush 6/3/2021 7:10:28 AM

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In #5 buzzsawmonkey said: Can someone explain this to me?

The government is in league with the drug traffickers. Is there another answer that is just as logical? 

Kosh's Shadow 6/3/2021 7:28:44 AM

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In #10 vxbush said: The government is in league with the drug traffickers. Is there another answer that is just as logical? 

A lot of fentanyl comes from China; the Dems are in bed with China, which is trying to destroy the US, so this does make sense.

JCM 6/3/2021 7:30:31 AM

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Reply to vxbush in 1:

The cynical old bastard in me says, yeah it's a feature of the social revolution to break down society and further enable the communist revolution.

Kosh's Shadow 6/3/2021 7:41:13 AM

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In #12 JCM said: The cynical old bastard in me says, yeah it's a feature of the social revolution to break down society and further enable the communist revolution.

Make everyone communicate via social networking where it can be monitored.

doppelganglander 6/3/2021 7:43:01 AM

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Reply to PaladinPhil in 7:

Happy birthday to the Squire! Hard to believe he's six already. 

When does school let out for the summer? Down here, it's usually the Friday before Memorial Day because they start in mid-August. It's later up North - New Jersey,  for example, starts after Labor Day and ends around the third week of June.

JCM 6/3/2021 7:48:57 AM

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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 13:

ChiComs have beta tested the social score, easy to roll out.

Hmmmm Kosh criticized the mask mandate, his unemployment check will have a $350 deduction......

PaladinPhil 6/3/2021 8:02:30 AM

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Reply to doppelganglander in 14:

Around the end of June here. There's 18 week days left of school as of today. Tomorrow is PA/PD day so almost three weeks to go now.

Kosh's Shadow 6/3/2021 8:21:14 AM

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In #15 JCM said: Hmmmm Kosh criticized the mask mandate, his unemployment check will have a $350 deduction......

I support Israel, which means I will have no chance of employment, either, at least not in Big Tech.

JCM 6/3/2021 8:25:54 AM

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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 17:

This one's not woke..... chain gang I think!

Kosh's Shadow 6/3/2021 8:30:08 AM

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Reply to JCM in 18:

Funny that last night I had a dream I was in some kind of insurrection against a dictatorship, and two of us were captured - one to be killed, the other tortured.

Occasional Reader 6/3/2021 8:45:47 AM

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Occasional Reader 6/3/2021 8:48:41 AM

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United airlines announces it is buying supersonic jet liners (that don't actually exist yet) from Boom Supersonic:

https://hub.united.com/2021-06-03-united-adding-supersonic-speeds-with-new-agreement-to-buy-aircraft-from-boom-supersonic-2653216403.html

Occasional Reader 6/3/2021 8:51:29 AM

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In #19 Kosh's Shadow said: Funny that last night I had a dream I was in some kind of insurrection against a dictatorship, and two of us were captured - one to be killed, the other tortured.

Early this morning I had a dream that I was in a commercial airliner crash, the airliner was having to land in a sort of giant parking garage and it did not go well. I got out just as everything was starting to catch fire, then felt guilty that I had not done more to help other people in the plane. Then, the next thing I know, I was calmly having dinner with a colleague (Who I have not actually seen in over a year, and rarely think about in real life).  At one point I asked her where she went to college, she replied that she was not sure and would have to ask "Alexa".

JCM 6/3/2021 8:52:44 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 21:

Pan Am bought the 747 based on a cross section drawing.

Aircraft manufacturers routinely don't start serious development until they have launch customer with orders.

This one is a bit more of a stretch.

Occasional Reader 6/3/2021 8:53:51 AM

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In #23 JCM said: Pan Am bought the 747 based on a cross section drawing.

The ancient Romans did the same, regarding their procurement of capital punishment devices...

Occasional Reader 6/3/2021 8:56:30 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 21:

and then there's this:

"Once operational, Overture is expected to be the first large commercial aircraft to be net-zero carbon from day one, optimized to run on 100% sustainable aviation fuel (SAF)."

I am skeptical, to say the least.

JCM 6/3/2021 9:03:53 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 25:

Big eye roll on that one.

Kosh's Shadow 6/3/2021 9:25:30 AM

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In #25 Occasional Reader said: "Once operational, Overture is expected to be the first large commercial aircraft to be net-zero carbon from day one, optimized to run on 100% sustainable aviation fuel (SAF)."

I'm sure it will be able to run on SAF, but that doesn't mean that is what will be used. 

A lot of this is due to the synthetic fuel technology that has been developed over the past several years, not so much the engines themselves, as the fuels have been developed to run in current engines.

JCM 6/3/2021 9:36:17 AM

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I believe they have to do a lot more processing on SAF to bring it up to the energy density of Jet-A, one of the requirements for running the stuff.

Any gains of sustainability are washed away in the extra processing.

Kosh's Shadow 6/3/2021 9:45:08 AM

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In #28 JCM said: I believe they have to do a lot more processing on SAF to bring it up to the energy density of Jet-A, one of the requirements for running the stuff. Any gains of sustainability are washed away in the extra processing.

As in growing the plants that get processed, and the processing, uses more energy than the fuel produces, like ethanol from corn.

It is all a scam, yes.

JCM 6/3/2021 9:45:40 AM

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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 29:

But we FEEL good about it!

JCM 6/3/2021 9:51:26 AM

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Occasional Reader 6/3/2021 10:02:08 AM

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In #31 JCM said: Quick search SAF cost 250% of Jet-A.

Which is why this will have to be taxpayer- subsidized, of course...

And then the ticket price will still be in the deep-four or perhaps five-figures.  So we'll have taxpayer-subsidized supersonic transport for rich people.  Again.

I hope I'm wrong about this (or at least, that this thing then scales up quickly). 

JCM 6/3/2021 10:05:33 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 32:

The same problem with ethanol and SAF.

Uses up crop land.

The left: People are starving, we need sustainable agriculture, we are near the planet's carry capacity.

The left: We need sustainable fuels.... let's use crop land for fuel!

Well make up your damn minds will you!

@PBJ3 6/3/2021 10:18:05 AM

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Reply to PaladinPhil in 7:

A very happy birthday to the squire!

Kosh's Shadow 6/3/2021 10:19:43 AM

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In #31 JCM said: Quick search SAF cost 250% of Jet-A.

I'm shocked! 

JCM 6/3/2021 10:21:07 AM

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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 35:

It's for the planet and we FEEL good.

Can't afford to fly anymore..... but we FEEL good.

Kosh's Shadow 6/3/2021 10:30:51 AM

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Reply to PaladinPhil in 7:

Doesn't seem like it's been 6 years.

Happy birthday to Squire

JCM 6/3/2021 10:38:57 AM

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buzzsawmonkey 6/3/2021 10:58:58 AM

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In #36 JCM said: Can't afford to fly anymore..... but we FEEL good.

High-speed rail!

vxbush 6/3/2021 11:02:13 AM

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In #33 JCM said: The left: We need sustainable fuels.... let's use crop land for fuel! Well make up your damn minds will you!

And then any cropland that is used, they don't want you using pesticides, so the density per acres also goes down. 

doppelganglander 6/3/2021 11:39:41 AM

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Reply to JCM in 33:
When my daughter was in a homeschool debate league 16 years ago (!), the topic was energy independence. I helped her prepare her case against ethanol. It was completely obvious to a teenager and a non-science minded mom what a stupid idea it was, yet here we are. Maybe all these ideas should be run by a panel of homeschoolers. They'll demolish the proposal in under an hour.

JCM 6/3/2021 11:55:45 AM

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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 40:

My favorite high speed rail moment was when I came across a article describing how CA was negotiating track usage for their High Speed Rail (HSR).

I did a full stop.... HSR to be HSR requires dedicated unshared track. You cannot have HSR sharing track with freight. You can't have level crossings with HSR.

By negotiating track usage they were admitting it was not HSR.

vxbush 6/3/2021 12:08:55 PM

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In #42 doppelganglander said: Maybe all these ideas should be run by a panel of homeschoolers. They'll demolish the proposal in under an hour.

I totally support this proposal.

Occasional Reader 6/3/2021 12:42:33 PM

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Aww, what's three or four million dead people... we can't stay mad at you forever, can we?  Come in for a hug, ya big lug!

Alice in Dairyland 6/3/2021 12:57:18 PM

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Police chase in Wisconsin ends with cattle blocking vehicle | KSTP.com

We love our cows!  Not only are they good for cheese curds but they're crime fighters too.

Thought we could all use some "good" news.  Other good news of the day is today is my 43rd wedding anniversary.  My husband is a very, very good man for all he has put up with over these years.

Alice in Dairyland 6/3/2021 1:01:32 PM

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In #10 vxbush said: The government is in league with the drug traffickers.

Is there any "war", (as in the war on drugs) we've been involved in that our government hasn't, to some degree, taken the side of our enemies?///

Alice in Dairyland 6/3/2021 1:08:22 PM

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In #7 PaladinPhil said: Today the Squire turns six.

Wow!  Tell him Happy Birthday from a person in the United States he doesn't even know.  That should make him feel really important!

Alice in Dairyland 6/3/2021 1:11:53 PM

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Occasional Reader 6/3/2021 1:21:42 PM

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Reply to Alice in Dairyland in 49:

Thanks.

vxbush 6/3/2021 1:30:36 PM

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Reply to Alice in Dairyland in 49:

Thanks, dear. I hope you are doing well.

Alice in Dairyland 6/3/2021 1:34:10 PM

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In #51 vxbush said: I hope you are doing well.

Thanks.  By the sounds of it, I'm doing a whole lot better than a lot of people.  I have nothing of importance to worry me; well other than life as we know it ending.

Kosh's Shadow 6/3/2021 1:54:19 PM

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In #46 Alice in Dairyland said: Other good news of the day is today is my 43rd wedding anniversary. 

Congratulations!

JCM 6/3/2021 2:05:52 PM

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Reply to Alice in Dairyland in 46:

Occasional Reader 6/3/2021 2:11:19 PM

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In #46 Alice in Dairyland said: Other good news of the day is today is my 43rd wedding anniversary.

Welll done, madame!

buzzsawmonkey 6/3/2021 2:21:01 PM

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In #46 Alice in Dairyland said: Other good news of the day is today is my 43rd wedding anniversary.  My husband is a very, very good man for all he has put up with over these years.

Congratulations---to you both.

doppelganglander 6/3/2021 2:32:43 PM

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Reply to Alice in Dairyland in 46:
 Happy anniversary!

Occasional Reader 6/3/2021 2:35:44 PM

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News you can use:

News you can use:

https://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2021/06/02/FDA-cicadas-seafood-allergies-warning/3601622667069/

Alice in Dairyland 6/3/2021 3:01:53 PM

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Alice in Dairyland 6/3/2021 3:04:58 PM

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Reply to JCM in 54:

My, how time flies.  I showed that to my husband and he said, "to be fair, we were asleep for a third of it".  And that's why I love him...

Kosh's Shadow 6/3/2021 3:14:40 PM

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Taking online required Workspace Harassment course.

I note lots of images of identifiable Muslims, but not Jews

Alice in Dairyland 6/3/2021 3:33:43 PM

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Randy Travis - Forever and Ever Amen - Lyrics Scrolling - YouTube

I don't normally like a lot of country/western music but this is one of the exceptions.  My husband always plays this song for me and it just about makes me cry every time.  I am indeed a fortunate woman to have ended up with him.

Alice in Dairyland 6/3/2021 3:36:45 PM

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In #61 Kosh's Shadow said: I note lots of images of identifiable Muslims, but not Jews

Everything offends the muslims.  You have to be taught how not to offend them.  Spoiler alert, everything offends the muslins.  I think Jews have developed a thicker skin.  

buzzsawmonkey 6/3/2021 4:02:19 PM

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Well, it appears that the Re-Education Camp gauleiters are not through with me yet.  I've been "invited" to "attend a discussion" regarding an (unspecified) "incident that occurred" during the Re-Education Camp sessions.

I wrote back and told them that unless and until they tell me what "incident" they are referring to, and why I should care, I am NOT interested.

Kosh's Shadow 6/3/2021 4:06:19 PM

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Reply to Alice in Dairyland in 63:

If that Google diversity chief (now fired) that said Jews are prone to violence (we are, but on the receiving end) had said that Muslims were prone to violence, google buildings would have been mobbed and blown up.

Kosh's Shadow 6/3/2021 4:08:26 PM

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In #64 buzzsawmonkey said: I wrote back and told them that unless and until they tell me what "incident" they are referring to, and why I should care, I am NOT interested.

You want to know the charges against you? How quaint. However, you are charged with, and therefore guilty of, thoughts and words heretical to Wokeism.

So says the Grand Woke-isitor.

Alice in Dairyland 6/3/2021 4:08:57 PM

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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 64:

Good for you.  I feel bad you have to be hassled like this.  I am glad though that you aren't dependent on the income.  They need someone to push back on this and you seem like you can't be pushed around.  Thank you for fighting on/for our side.  We need many more people like you.

Alice in Dairyland 6/3/2021 4:11:38 PM

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In #65 Kosh's Shadow said: had said that Muslims were prone to violence, google buildings would have been mobbed and blown up.

They're like incredibly evil children.  Don't upset them or they'll burn the house down.

JCM 6/3/2021 4:24:47 PM

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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 64:

You are not allowed to know the charges against you!

You should know how Kafkaland works by now.