lucius septimius 12/19/2019 5:46:49 AM

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Occasional Reader 12/19/2019 6:20:03 AM

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Syrah 12/19/2019 6:34:07 AM

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Nancy is withholding the impeachment from the Senate.

What is to stop Mitch from announcing that the Senate will accept Nancy’s Pocket Veto of the Impeachment to be the equivalent of a full acquittal?

JCM 12/19/2019 6:43:07 AM

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Reply to Syrah in 3:

She's in the spot light as long as it is in The House.

Once it goes to the Upper Chamber.... she's not.

buzzsawmonkey 12/19/2019 6:44:12 AM

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Reply to Syrah in 3:

I don't know if there is such a thing as a "pocket veto" in the legislative branch, but I wonder if there's a time limit on when a bill has to be sent from one house to the other.  If there is, or even if it is customary for a time limit to be observed for one house sending a bill to the other, it would get very interesting were McConnell to state that, the customary time limit having been passed, the bill of impeachment was dead, the House vote notwithstanding.

Syrah 12/19/2019 6:46:22 AM

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Reply to JCM in 4:

it looks to me like the Endless Impeachment is a Campaign loser for the Democrats in the next election. 

Am I wrong?

Do the Democrats improve their election numbers by holding this thing up or are they just going to make people angry?

JCM 12/19/2019 6:47:01 AM

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Syrah 12/19/2019 6:50:02 AM

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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 5:

i think that the time limit for sending a bill to the Senate from the house is the closing of the term.

if a bill is not moved out of the house before the closing gavel, the next Congress is not the body that passed it.

Syrah 12/19/2019 6:56:06 AM

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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/12/18/pollak-senate-can-acquit-even-if-house-doesnt-transmit-articles-of-impeachment-constitution/

lucius septimius 12/19/2019 7:37:49 AM

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In #2 Occasional Reader said: THIS IS IT! THE END OF TRUMP! WALLS CLOSING IN!!!  

Since the House voted to impeach, that means Hillary Clinton is president now, right?  isn't that how this works?

Occasional Reader 12/19/2019 8:55:55 AM

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Reply to lucius septimius in 10:

Yes, right after Trump is frog-marched out of the White House in shackles, I think.

buzzsawmonkey 12/19/2019 9:28:12 AM

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In #11 Occasional Reader said: Yes, right after Trump is frog-marched out of the White House in shackles, I think.

Isn't that "prog-marched" in this case?

buzzsawmonkey 12/19/2019 9:42:27 AM

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Under Impeachment

—the Grifters, with apologies to “Under the Boardwalk” by the Drifters

Oh, when when we can’t get over your defeat of our shoo-in candidate

And for next year’s election we can’t field a decent opposition slate

Under impeachment, by a party-line vote

We will vent our hatred of you and then we’ll gloat

(Under impeachment) We’re out of control

(Under impeachment) We vote by partisan roll

(Under impeachment) We hate the president

(Under impeachment) But have no evidence

(Under impeachment) Impeachment

Oh, we played around with collusion, quid pro quo and bribery

But it all comes down merely to partisan antipathy

Under impeachment, by a party-line vote

We will vent our hatred of you and then we’ll gloat

(Under impeachment) We’re out of control

(Under impeachment) We vote by partisan roll

(Under impeachment) We hate the president

(Under impeachment) But have no evidence

(Under impeachment) Impeachment

Under impeachment, by a party-line vote

We will vent our hatred of you and then we’ll gloat

(Under impeachment) We’re out of control

(Under impeachment) We vote by partisan roll

(Under impeachment) We hate the president

(Under impeachment) But have no evidence

(Under impeachment) Impeachment

lucius septimius 12/19/2019 9:58:14 AM

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buzzsawmonkey 12/19/2019 10:04:02 AM

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In #14 lucius septimius said: That's what comes from trying to mollify fascists.

Intersectionality's

Distinguishing quality

Is that it tries to mollify the fascists

And to this end they farrow

Distinctions broad and narrow

Crying "We are all victims and we must resist!

We must resist-oh

Accept our jive-oh

We won't let you get on with your lives, oh my no!"

---apologies to "Molly Malone"

doppelganglander 12/19/2019 10:23:33 AM

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Reply to lucius septimius in 14:

TIL reality is transphobic. I'm sure JKR is weeping over her billion-pound brokerage statements because a few loons tweeted mean things from Bizarro World.

vxbush 12/19/2019 10:35:50 AM

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Greetings, all y'all. 

I've been doing some thinking about FISA and courts and may have hit a solution I haven't seen anywhere. The big problem with the FISC is that the Government as prosecutions brings in charges against someone whom they claim needs to be surveilled to protect national security or what have you and there is no one to act as an adversary to the Government or to act on behalf of the person surveilled. 

So: what we need is someone like a guardian ad litem to act on behalf of the person in question. Call this person the devil's advocate if we prefer to Catholic veneer, but we need someone to act on behalf of the accused. 

What say you, lawyers? Would that make things better? The same process of disclosing all documentation between both sides still holds, so all the material that DOJ discovered on Page would then have to be passed off to the advocate, who could then go back and confirm the document directly from sources. 

vxbush 12/19/2019 10:37:17 AM

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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 13:

Bravo! *whistles*

Occasional Reader 12/19/2019 12:43:02 PM

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Steyn: The Ground Zero Mosque idea is back(?):

https://www.steynonline.com/9931/the-non-war-on-non-terror

lucius septimius 12/19/2019 1:52:04 PM

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vxbush 12/19/2019 2:07:29 PM

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In #20 lucius septimius said: Arizona State wants to hire a professor of "Reproductive Justice."  The ad represents everything wrong with higher education.

Notice the requisite statement of diversity that is required. Bad thinkers get blocked at that step. 

doppelganglander 12/19/2019 2:11:03 PM

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Reply to lucius septimius in 20:

Every person involved in that crime against humanity should be flayed and quartered.

Occasional Reader 12/19/2019 2:40:21 PM

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Reply to lucius septimius in 20:

The “School of Social Transformation” , natch.