vxbush 12/17/2019 6:09:59 AM

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Morning, campers. Syrah said yesterday: 

As much as I would like the Republicans in the Senate to use the impeachment to exact revenge on the Democrats and call witness that expose the corrupt nature of the Biden/Burisma relationship as well as expose a bunch of the people involved in this for being liars and bad actors, I don’t trust Republican Senators to do that kind of thing very well. 

Sundance has evidence that one of the Republican senators is tied to Ukraine, so he won't have any interest in exposing the goings on there. I'll see if I can go find it again. 

vxbush 12/17/2019 6:16:13 AM

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Okay, I think this is part of the evidence--it's a fairly recent thread. 

WOW – OAN Stunning Lutsenko Interview – Outlines: Marie Yovanovitch Perjury, George Kent Impeachment Motive, Lindsey Graham Motive to Bury Investigation… It's down a bit on the page. 

And another post on the same topic. 

Oh Snap – Senator Lindsey Graham Pledges to Block Testimony of U.S. Politicians Coordinating With Ukraine…

Is there smoking gun evidence? I don't recall seeing any, but you can create a solid case using a lot of indirect evidence. This is one piece of that evidence.

JCM 12/17/2019 6:59:58 AM

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Reply to vxbush in 2:

IMAO McConnell's move will be to move to dismiss, based on lack of evidence and improper procedure. Roberts might go along.

The (R)s have show no interest in the last 10 years in pursuing any of the corruption cases to the end. Much sound and fury in the beginning but in the end signifying nothing.

Occasional Reader 12/17/2019 7:01:24 AM

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Good morning.  The New Yorker and WSJ: When you think about it, the Jersey City massacre was really the fault of Jews moving into what's supposed to be an all-black neighborhood, and being all Jewish-y.  

Yeah, okay, I'm paraphrasing/exaggerating, but only a little. 

Occasional Reader 12/17/2019 7:03:25 AM

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In #2 vxbush said: Oh Snap – Senator Lindsey Graham Pledges to Block Testimony of U.S. Politicians Coordinating With Ukraine…

Well, that's one take on it.  Another is that he's essentially announcing "this impeachment is a farce, and we're not going to drag it out any longer". 

Occasional Reader 12/17/2019 7:10:17 AM

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Also on the Jersey City attack, courtesy of the NY Daily News: "The pair barely made it a mile when police descended on the van, forcing the killers to open fire in the street. "

See that?  The police forced them to shoot!  The poor dears had no choice. 

Occasional Reader 12/17/2019 7:41:38 AM

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Occasional Reader 12/17/2019 7:47:33 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 7:

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PaladinPhil 12/17/2019 7:52:36 AM

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buzzsawmonkey 12/17/2019 7:52:50 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 4:

There are very few "historically black" neighborhoods. Harlem was Irish, German and Jewish until the early 20th century; the Bronx was largely Italian and Jewish until the '50s. Bedford-Stuyvesant was built as an upper-middle-class bedroom community in the 1870s; I'm not sure when it flipped. Brownsville and East New York were built by working-class Jews.

Lawndale on Chicago's West Side was solidly Jewish when built in the early teens; it became black in the 1950s. The University of Chicago considered leaving Hyde Park on the South Side in the early '50s, because the changing neighborhood was becoming so crime-ridden. Woodlawn, to the south of the University, flipped at that time and is still predominantly black. South Shore, where Michelle Obama grew up, was an upper-middle-class community (predominantly Jewish and Irish) with a sprinkling of blacks. It flipped in about two years in the mid-Sixties.

Occasional Reader 12/17/2019 8:17:52 AM

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In #10 buzzsawmonkey said: There are very few "historically black" neighborhoods.

Yes, my radar always pings when I see that term. 

And so, MSM, you'd also clutch your pearls over a story about black people moving into a "historically white" neighborhood.... right?  I mean, that's the way this works, correct?  Neighborhoods are supposed to be racially/ethnically segregated, or something? 

Occasional Reader 12/17/2019 8:24:53 AM

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In #9 PaladinPhil said: New stove arrives this afternoon.

May I be franke?  It takes amana good amount of research to pick a good stove, and not bosch the job; especially with all that frigidaire you have to contend with up there in frozen Canada.  And even after doing copious research, you're always asking yourself, kenmore be done?  

(I maytag this as the worst pun post of the day) 

lucius septimius 12/17/2019 8:48:07 AM

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In #10 buzzsawmonkey said: "historically black" neighborhoods.

I think it works the same way it does for Muslims -- if blacks/muslims have ever lived in a particular place at any time, then it is "historically" theirs.

Sort of the locative reflex of the "one drop" rule.

Occasional Reader 12/17/2019 8:52:04 AM

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Reply to lucius septimius in 13:

Shouldn't we really refer to all of Manhattan as a "historically Dutch neighborhood"? 

lucius septimius 12/17/2019 9:01:06 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 14:

In which case windmills would totally be within zoning regulations.

Occasional Reader 12/17/2019 9:06:46 AM

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In #15 lucius septimius said: In which case windmills would totally be within zoning regulations.

Seems like a rather quixotic goal you have there.

PaladinPhil 12/17/2019 9:27:52 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 12:

Damn, I have to hand it to you. Looked at several of those manufacturers actually but none of them were in stock, cheap enough, or met my requirements. Ended up getting a Samsung. Sales clerk said that they had the better service if things break versus LG. Others weren't really up to the same level either. Managed to get one that wasn't stainless steel. Wife despises that look and told me not to even bother trying.

Syrah 12/17/2019 9:40:49 AM

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Reply to vxbush in 1:

Reply to Occasional Reader in 5:

As much as I would like to see the Republicans in the Senate exact some righteous revenge on the Democrats, I don’t think they have the skills, the habits, or even the stomach for doing it right.

I would settle for them just not screwing it up at this point and just taking the win now. The longer this thing gets delayed, the more likely that the weak willed and duplicitous people with R’s by their names will be tempted to make bad decisions. 

Syrah 12/17/2019 10:46:21 AM

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Syarh’s Tech Talk of the day.

Buy two printers for the office.

Kill the first printer in front of the other printer, full on office space style.

The other printer will work flawlessly.

vxbush 12/17/2019 11:18:10 AM

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In #19 Syrah said: Syarh’s Tech Talk of the day. Buy two printers for the office. Kill the first printer in front of the other printer, full on office space style. The other printer will work flawlessly.

Or, in my case, whisper in a sweet voice how I can and will take you apart, piece by piece, and burn the pieces in the back yard barbecue down to ash if you don't work right. 

It's amazing how well that little speech works. 

doppelganglander 12/17/2019 12:17:58 PM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 11:

There was a story on the local news last night concerning a group of black residents protesting that developers are scooping up land in their neighborhood and building offices and luxury apartments and condos. Which is, you know, basically what developers do. Somehow this is "unfair" and they're demanding that the Mayor put a stop to it, though it's not clear how she could do that. The residents don't seem to realize that they are renters, not owners, and have very little say in what the owners do - basically, they have to be given notice and allowed to finish out their leases. Also, these protesters didn't look the least bit poor (not rich, but middle-class).Tough break, but they do have options.

Occasional Reader 12/17/2019 12:24:28 PM

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Reply to doppelganglander in 21:

Hey, they're the historic residents of those buildings, so QED, social justice something something. 

JCM 12/17/2019 12:36:39 PM

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Reply to doppelganglander in 21:

Our favorite Commie Clowncil member Sawant proposed evictions, should be illegal in winter.

Also the State Supreme court upheld a first come first serve law in Seattle for renters. Background checks etc... are illegal for landlords... first person to pony up the first last and deposit gets the apartment. 

JCM 12/17/2019 12:40:46 PM

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Wash. state sues feds over courthouse immigration arrests

JCM 12/17/2019 12:41:34 PM

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Reply to JCM in 25:

And Sideshow Bob, the State Sanctuary Policy interferes with the Federal Government's authority over immigration.

Kosh's Shadow 12/17/2019 12:42:44 PM

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In #24 JCM said: Also the State Supreme court upheld a first come first serve law in Seattle for renters. Background checks etc... are illegal for landlords... first person to pony up the first last and deposit gets the apartment. 

Condo conversions!

Kosh's Shadow 12/17/2019 12:45:40 PM

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In #26 JCM said: And Sideshow Bob, the State Sanctuary Policy interferes with the Federal Government's authority over immigration.

Same here in Massachusetts.

ICE is fighting back 

ICE is defending its policy to make arrests in state courthouses, asking a federal judge to toss a suit by District Attorneys Marian Ryan and Rachael Rollins, saying federal common law has never provided immunity from immigration enforcement.

“Congress has spoken completely to ICE’s arrest authority and provided no limitations on courthouse arrests,” a motion to dismiss the civil suit filed late Friday read.

Attorneys for Immigration and Customs Enforcement also said the Suffolk and Middlesex DAs lack standing to file a lawsuit, because they are not illegal immigrants or subjects of ICE’s civil arrests, and the courthouse enforcement directive is unreviewable because it deals with prosecutorial discretion.

The 23-page motion also notes the DAs’ lawsuit has not specifically identified a single person who is subject to the rule, instead referring to “certain aliens.”

JCM 12/17/2019 12:49:15 PM

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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 27:

What makes it even more fun is Seattle holding property owners liable for "nuisances" on their property.

A bar with problems, the property owner, not the person holding the lease and running the bar is liable. Same with motels, hotels and apartments.

So drug dealers with cash can be the first to apply for an apartment, then the landlord is liable for the drug trafficking on his property and subject to forfeiture.

Kosh's Shadow 12/17/2019 2:14:37 PM

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Reply to JCM in 29:

There was a motel in Massachusetts, where drug dealers would use rooms. The owner cooperated with the police, let them use rooms for stake-outs, and reported all the dealing he saw.

The town went after him under the civil forfeiture law. I forget which conservative law foundation handled his appeal, and he won.

If they applied the same standards they use for the little guys, they'd seize all airliners flown from South America, but they know the airlines have the money to fight, and the political power to stop it.

Note that when these are appealed, the property owner usually wins, but the government never appeals further, because if it gets to the Supreme Court, it would be probably found unconstitutional.

doppelganglander 12/17/2019 4:09:33 PM

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In #24 JCM said: first come first serve law

That is hands down the stupidest thing I've heard today (but I've been offline most of the day). It's just going to lead to Seattle landlords selling their property and investing in property nearby where you can do normal things like run a credit check and background check. There will be fewer rental properties in the city, tenants will whine about sky-high rent, and the city council will come up with another stupid plan to make matters worse.