buzzsawmonkey 5/17/2020 5:49:53 AM

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lucius septimius 5/17/2020 7:57:54 AM

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Interesting.

There is a great deal of cross-fertilization in music that often goes unnoticed.  There are also tunes that have long and varied histories.  I used to assign an article by Bela Bartok called "Racial Purity in Music" where he traces the origins of the quintessential "Hungarian" tune -- the Rakoczi March -- back to a late medieval Persian marching tune.  His point was that no song or melody ever belongs solely to one group of people; rather, music is shared, especially has professional musicians are always on the lookout for a good tun.

lucius septimius 5/17/2020 8:02:35 AM

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JCM 5/17/2020 8:27:42 AM

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Reply to lucius septimius in 2:

Sounds to me like you are justifying Cultural Appropriation!

YOU RACIST!

Not just music... just about everything. Language, customs, clothing, food you name it.

lucius septimius 5/17/2020 8:31:34 AM

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buzzsawmonkey 5/17/2020 8:38:32 AM

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In #3 lucius septimius said: Currently pouring rain and the river is already 4 feet above flood stage.  

Muddy Water

buzzsawmonkey 5/17/2020 8:41:04 AM

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Reply to lucius septimius in 3:

River, Stay Away From My Door

buzzsawmonkey 5/17/2020 8:44:16 AM

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Reply to lucius septimius in 3:

The River's Takin' Care of Me

Occasional Reader 5/17/2020 8:50:35 AM

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buzzsawmonkey 5/17/2020 8:59:32 AM

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In #9 Occasional Reader said: For instance, in just two bottles during the opening couple of weeks of operation Barbarossa, the Soviets lost about 3000 tanks.

I know that Russian vodka is strong, but I'd think that it would take more than just two bottles for them to get sufficiently tanked up to lose that many.

JCM 5/17/2020 9:30:08 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 9:

People never learn, or forget. Russian and China both lost around 20 Million people during WWII.

lucius septimius 5/17/2020 9:34:23 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 9:

Regarding the Russia angle, they didn't pull any punches about how awful Stalin was -- one of the Russian commentators was scholar who had defected to the West.  A really good book on the invasion is Hitler Moves East -- the author is a former SS guy and it's definitely written from the German pov.  That said, his detailed description of the campaign is outstanding.

One thing that's sort of annoying is that Patton gets short schrift in the series.  The defense of Bastogne is hardly even mentioned.

I remember watching the original series with my dad.  In the sections that dealt with the Pacific war he offered commentary, as he did when we watched Victory at Sea.  I learned a great deal about his experiences in the war from that commentary.  Oh to have had a tape recorder and to have thought to have taped it ...

lucius septimius 5/17/2020 9:35:27 AM

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Reply to JCM in 11:

Never learn.  I was taught next to nothing about the two world wars in school, and my kids have gotten even less, except that Trump = Hitler.

Occasional Reader 5/17/2020 10:38:19 AM

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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 10:

I continue to maintain that iPhone voice to text transcription was better a half a dozen years ago than it is now.

Occasional Reader 5/17/2020 10:45:50 AM

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Reply to JCM in 11:

I think it was Victor Davis Hanson who said something like, in terms of deaths, World War II statistically consists of Germans killing civilians; Japanese killing civilians; and “everything else“.

Occasional Reader 5/17/2020 10:49:16 AM

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But do you know what is even worse than World War II? “Unconscious bias“ exhibited during zoom meetings:

https://davidthompson.typepad.com/davidthompson/2020/05/their-happiness-hurt-my-feelings.html

lucius septimius 5/17/2020 11:22:05 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 16: 

These people are so tiresome.

JCM 5/17/2020 11:37:57 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 16:

You know what. The Cynical bastard in me says these "woke" dopes need a real pandemic, a world war, a famine, a massive natural disaster, simultaneously to re-align their priorites.

buzzsawmonkey 5/17/2020 5:05:17 PM

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