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Posted on 08/08/2020 4.00 AM

Kosh's Shadow 8/2/2020 7:13:03 PM


Posted by: Kosh's Shadow

revobob 8/8/2020 5:50:30 AM
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Watched Dopps on Jeopardy last night, quarter final round. It was like deja vu all over again!


Occasional Reader 8/8/2020 5:53:11 AM
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Reply to revobob in 1:

Revo! Please take a look at the last link I posted in last nights post, and tell me what you think of it.

revobob 8/8/2020 5:53:29 AM
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Just went to the Frontier- Sorry to see your note about the passing of India- she seemed like an interesting person.


revobob 8/8/2020 6:09:15 AM
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Reply to Occasional Reader in 2: Reply to Occasional Reader in 6: huius, huius, huius (IIRC- been 51 years since last Latin class!)

On that holster- I have no personal experience with it, but general observations from similar types (some of the race holsters we use, like my CR Speed use very similar mechanics) are that if it holds the trigger guard tightly enough to be safe, it also holds tightly enough to potentially slow or restrict the draw. I also do not favor any system that precludes carrying with a round in the chamber. Another factor is that most of the weapon is exposed- to belly-button lint, perspiration, the sensuously groping hands of all your supermodel Latina friends, and whatever else penetrates the intra-trouser environment. The need to remove it to reholster seems a negative too- in a situation where you draw the gun discreetly, but do not need to use it after all, removing the holster seems likely to draw attention when you would prefer not. Given that a 'standard' pouch type holster adds only a thin layer of Kydex or leather to this one, I personally would pass on this one.



revobob 8/8/2020 6:10:26 AM
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Reply to Occasional Reader in 2: Reply to Occasional Reader in 6: huius, huius, huius (IIRC- been 51 years since last Latin class!)

On that holster- I have no personal experience with it, but general observations from similar types (some of the race holsters we use, like my CR Speed use very similar mechanics) are that if it holds the trigger guard tightly enough to be safe, it also holds tightly enough to potentially slow or restrict the draw. I also do not favor any system that precludes carrying with a round in the chamber. Another factor is that most of the weapon is exposed- to belly-button lint, perspiration, the sensuously groping hands of all your supermodel Latina friends, and whatever else penetrates the intra-trouser environment. The need to remove it to reholster seems a negative too- in a situation where you draw the gun discreetly, but do not need to use it after all, removing the holster seems likely to draw attention when you would prefer not. Given that a 'standard' pouch type holster adds only a thin layer of Kydex or leather to this one, I personally would pass on this one.



PaladinPhil 8/8/2020 6:16:04 AM
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Reply to revobob in 5:

Morning revo, since you are our resident firearm expert... Do you know anything about 1911's?

revobob 8/8/2020 6:19:19 AM
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Reply to PaladinPhil in 6: Some- I own 3 of them. (Although, strictly speaking one is a ParaOrdnance P14 and one is an STI race gun, both of which are high caps. What would you like to know?



revobob 8/8/2020 6:20:08 AM
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and sorry about the double post- not sure what I did wrong.
PaladinPhil 8/8/2020 6:30:09 AM
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Reply to revobob in 7:

Right, having a jam problem. Bought a Norinco .45 hi-cap a few months ago. Managed to fire about 400-500 rounds through it without any issue. Now, I fire one maybe two rounds and it locks up with a partially extracted casing and the slide needs to be hammered forward to unlock and move again. Thought it was one thing and tried greasing it up (found out that most 1911's work best "wet"). Didn't do the trick and still locked up. Figuring that there's an issue with the slide locks since once I free the jam it moves the way it should. Originally thought it was an issue with my reloads, but it also does it with factory ammunition.

Occasional Reader 8/8/2020 6:55:08 AM
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In #4 revobob said: and whatever else penetrates the intra-trouser environment.

I don’t see how that’s any of your damn business!


Thanks, and your observations kind of square with mine. In addition, it occurs to me that since I’ve got a little tac light mounted on the front of the pistol it would not fit in that holster anyway.


revobob 8/8/2020 6:56:19 AM
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Reply to PaladinPhil in 9: Phil- I'm not sure I understand. You say a partially extracted case- is it also partially out of the ejection port? Or is the mouth of the case still in the chamber? The part about needing to 'hammer' the slide forward bothers me too- normally when the jammed case is cleared the slide should close into battery when released.

The term slide lock is usually used only to refer to the lever on the left side of the frame that is pushed up by the magazine follower after the last round. If you mean the combination of the pivoting link below the barrel and the lugs on the top that fit into grooves inside the slide, those would indicate different problems.

I would suggest that you start by removing the slide and cleaning it carefully. This includes removing the firing pin and extractor. (There are videos online if you don't know how to do that.) Look at all the surfaces. Depending on the ammo you are using (lead bullets?) sometimes a sall ring of lead can build up in the front of the chamber on the step where the case headspaces. That can actually 'clamp' on the mouth of the case hard enough to hinder feeding and extraction. Look at the breechface on the slide. Sometimes (rarely) softer cases can transfer a small amount of brass in a ring on the breechface which interferes with the head of the case sliding smoothly into position as the cartridge chambers. With the firing pin and extractor removed, clean the bores they fit in with solvent and Q-Tips (or other swabs.  If the gun has a Series 80 type firing pin block, examine those pieces carefully. In all cases, you need to look closely for any signs of burrs left from manufacturing. Find an online picture of a correct extractor and compare yours with it for the curvature that applirs spring tension so that the hook gets enough bite to pull the cartridge out. (1911s are notorious for extractor problems- you might want to consider replacing the OEM one witha higher quality aftermarket one from Ed Brown or Wilson Combat- if you can get them in Canada.) (More to come.)



revobob 8/8/2020 7:02:53 AM
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Reply to Occasional Reader in 10: There has been a great deal of experimentation with different holster/ retention systems in USPSA race gun gear. Most of the really radical stuff is barely usable in a strictly competition environment. Quite a few people have gone back from the most minimalist (is that an oxymoron?) to more traditional pouch types because they are not significantly slower but are more secure. (USPSA used to, and probably still does require that you do a standing jump and then a forward somersault without losing the gun). A lot of the time the traditional gear IS the traditional gear because it works.

PaladinPhil 8/8/2020 7:05:09 AM
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Reply to revobob in 11:

Okay, the spent casing is still "stuck" in the chamber. I have already examined the extractor and firing pin (not a series 80). Cleaning has been done and I took a brillo pad to the chamber to polish and clean carefully. Ammunition is copper plated round nosed. Cheaper and the range as a lead ban on the indoor and outdoor portions.

Wilson Combat parts are available. In fact my local gunshop gunsmith carries them. Out of ideas on what the problem is and will probably take it in this week and have them look at it. Prices are fairly reasonable I think. Told the wife that it was necessary since a firearm that doesn't work properly isn't a proper firearm. Got a "yes dear". :p

PaladinPhil 8/8/2020 7:07:53 AM
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Reply to revobob in 12:

Leads into another question. Thinking of getting into sport shooting and wondering what would be the best type of holster for that. Forget what the organization is up here, not three gun. Need to get a "Black Badge" course in order to compete first.

PaladinPhil 8/8/2020 7:18:23 AM
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Okay got to go do things. Need groceries for a famliy BBQ this afternoon. Oh, Revo... Bought the Hi-Cap used so probably been broken in before I purchased.
revobob 8/8/2020 7:39:00 AM
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Continuing to Phil- 400-500 rounds should be an adequate break-in. Depending on the quality of metal, and the care in manufacturing, it may also be time enough for softer springs to lose some tension, softer metal to develop burrs where surfaces bang together, or even for harder metal to chip or gall. I have a single-stack Norinco that is about 25 years old, and I have been amazed at the quality and durability. That said, the Chinese are pretty notorious for inconsistent quality control. The good news is that on a 1911 that would probably ONLY require replacing some inexpensive pieces like the extractor and various springs. The recoil spring has to be considered a consumable item (this is true for virtually all semi-autos). I would suggest getting a replacement set of Wolff springs (available directly or from Brownell's). This will include the recoil spring and the firing pin return spring (the one inside the slide). Compare the old springs with the new ones. That will not jam the slide to where it needs to be 'hammered' forward, but it will help with any other issues.. 

I mentioned a ring of lead in the chamber- use a sharp scribe or metal pick to clean that out. Look at the feed ramp and the top of the chamber toward the back- on a 1911 the cartridge has to bounce off the feed ramp and then off the roof of the chamber on its way in. Look for any signs of wear or build up in those areas. Most 1911 people use a Dremel with some polishing compound to polish any tool marks out of the feed ramp. This is not hard, but if you decide to do this it is critical that the angle and groove radius on the ramp NOT be changed.

Look at the ejector. Look for any 'mushrooming' on the end where it hits the case, Look for any burrs that might drag in the slot in the slide. A fine file or small abrasive stone can clean those up. Look at ALL the pins and the pivoting link under the barrel for any looseness, cracks, or broken/ bent pins. This would include the pin on the slide lock lever- look for any wear or damage on that.

More on the extractor- if you can compare it to a 'good' one and find that it is straighter, you can correct that by putting the hook end into its tunnel in the slide about 1"/ 25mm, and GENTLY pressing the free end to slightly bend it more. Be careful on this- too much pressure WILL break the extractor. This would be a temporary fix until you can get a new extractor.

Finally, watch very carefully for any chips of brass, anywhere. Some cartridge cases are hard enough to spall off tiny chips. If these accumulate anywhere in the gun they can lead to malfunctions. Remember that they will probably be mixed with lube and gunpowder residue, so may be hard to spot. 

Note on personal philosophy- I would keep a spare of each of the small parts on hand- this is in addition to the ones ordered as replacements as suggested above. I believe Brownell's packages a kit with all the pins, etc.  Some of these parts will probably never wear out or break, but many of them are small enough to lose easily. The springs and extractor must all be considered consumable, so spares for those are obvious. The idea behind the spare parts is that they may well be unobtainable at the time you most need to have the gun in running order.

Let me know what happens. I will post my cell in the Frontier- feel free to call and discuss if you wish.

Occasional Reader 8/8/2020 7:39:01 AM
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Reply to revobob in 12:

so I may have mentioned that I’m finally going to take my concealed carry class, next weekend. After that, send in the paperwork, so to speak, and hope for a quick turnaround. So I’m starting to look at what kind of rig I will use. I picked up an inside the waistband holster sold by Sig that accommodates the pistol with the light. Also, a sticky holster. With the former, one thing I notice is that I’ll have to buy pants and shorts with about another inch of room in the waist.

revobob 8/8/2020 7:45:47 AM
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Reply to Occasional Reader in 17: The larger waistline is a fact, although with yer svelte svfigure it shouldn't be too big an issue! While you're at ti, pay attention to belts. The narrow, extra flexible ones that are stylish don't do a good job of keeping the holster in place, and often let the pants droop due to the extra weight. In situations where you wear the shirt untucked you might consider suspenders.

revobob 8/8/2020 7:48:41 AM
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Reply to PaladinPhil in 13:  I would suggest that you look at the extractor and for the build up in the chamber mouth before taking it in, Both are pretty easy to fix. I would also suggest you talk to the gun shop man about the spares kit I mentioned above.

Time for me to get busy. Y'all play nice.

revobob 8/8/2020 8:05:34 AM
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In #14 PaladinPhil said: Leads into another question. Thinking of getting into sport shooting and wondering what would be the best type of holster for that. Forget what the organization is up here, not three gun. Need to get a "Black Badge" course in order to compete first.

Assuming that your gun is stock-appearing (No compensator or ports, no optical sight), you would be competing in a production class. The different sanctioning bodies each have their own names for such. Likely sanctioning groups would be IDPA, USPSA, ans SCSA. (Look the up online). In addition a lot of clubs offer various types of matches that are not strictly conforming to any of the major rulebooks. Assuming the situation is the same as here in the US, any of them will welcome you. Most clubs have some sort of online presence, either a website or facebook, and should have an e-mail contact for you to ask questions and get info about rules, fees, dates, etc. For sure you will need eye and hearing protection and that will include spectators. 

As far as holsters- in production classes the emphasis is usually on training with real world gear, although this usually prohibits IWB, small-of-back, or cross draw holsters. IDPA has a specific list of approved guns and holsters. The others usually do not. You will probably need a number of extra magazines (typically 5) and a way to carry them on your belt. You should inquire about that when you contact them. Both magazine carriers and holsters need not be fancy or expensive- simple Kydex plastic ones will do just fine. I would avoid the cheap ballistic nylon stuff- it is too floppy and rarely firmly positions things you want to be able to grab precisely. Get a good belt. The best, if you can spend the money, is a two layer set where one goes through the belt loops on your pants and has Velcro on the outside, and the outer belt that you actually put the holster and mag carriers on, lined with Velcro on the inside. That way your gear is consistently in the same place, and you can make a pit stop without scattering guns and ammo around the porta-potty. 

Kosh's Shadow 8/8/2020 8:11:30 AM
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In #9 lucius septimius said: Woke up in the pub -- everything would be ok if I could find my pants.

Jukebox

Occasional Reader 8/8/2020 8:34:16 AM
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In #21 Kosh's Shadow said: everything would be ok if I could find my pants.

If that’s not already the Joe Biden 2020 campaign slogan, it should be.

JCM 8/8/2020 8:42:29 AM
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Man, ya' snooze ya' lose.

Sleep in a little and miss all the good stuff.

lucius septimius 8/8/2020 8:44:59 AM
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Biden tells staffers to pick any black person for VP "Since they all think the same anyway."
Occasional Reader 8/8/2020 8:50:45 AM
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Reply to lucius septimius in 24:

 But the real challenge is finding one who is “clean and articulate“.

doppelganglander 8/8/2020 8:54:58 AM
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Reply to revobob in 1:

Reply to revobob in 3:

Thanks, revo. Yes, India was terrific. The last time I saw her was six years ago. After many years in New York, she and her husband retired to Indiana and were enjoying the country life. The tribute to her at the end was lovely.



lucius septimius 8/8/2020 9:03:45 AM
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A little Saturday swing.
lucius septimius 8/8/2020 9:08:20 AM
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I've decided that after mom dies I need a serious vacation.  I'm looking at Majuro Atoll -- seems like the perfect place to get away from it all, and I mean it ALL.
Kosh's Shadow 8/8/2020 9:17:02 AM
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In #28 lucius septimius said: I'm looking at Majuro Atoll -- seems like the perfect place to get away from it all, and I mean it ALL.

But there's nothing to do there atoll.

lucius septimius 8/8/2020 9:20:05 AM
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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 29:

Which is the point.

I'm really suffering not being able to go to the beach.  I hate being land-locked.  And what a perfect place -- all beach surrounded by the largest ocean in the world.

JCM 8/8/2020 9:23:54 AM
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I'm dyin'
MAGA the song
lucius septimius 8/8/2020 9:34:36 AM
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Reply to JCM in 31:

Oh that's brilliant. 

Kosh's Shadow 8/8/2020 9:36:00 AM
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Reply to lucius septimius in 30:
Where I work has a site at Kwajalein, and when I worked there (lab, not Kwaj) 35 years ago, some people who had just come back complained about the humidity and the mold getting into everything.

lucius septimius 8/8/2020 9:55:11 AM
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In #33 Kosh's Shadow said: humidity and the mold getting into everything.

I don't doubt it.  But that's the tropics for you.  I'm used to heat and humidity.

Kosh's Shadow 8/8/2020 10:26:14 AM
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Reply to lucius septimius in 34:

I'd prefer to go to Antarctica. I'm uncomfortable at 74 degrees.

doppelganglander 8/8/2020 10:36:05 AM
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Reply to JCM in 31:

That is priceless! I'm not sure which part is my favorite - Cory Booker as the cowboy, or the singer (who may be Lizzo? IDK) grinding on Hillary. 

Kosh's Shadow 8/8/2020 10:51:06 AM
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In #35 Kosh's Shadow said: I'd prefer to go to Antarctica

The shoggoths could be a problem, but I'm used to them. Have one on the roof.

Jukebox

lucius septimius 8/8/2020 10:52:54 AM
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In #36 doppelganglander said: Cory Booker as the cowboy,

That was the best imho.

lucius septimius 8/8/2020 10:58:31 AM
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I had one of those dreams where everything seemed real up until the last second.  I was at a conference and was meeting up with a colleague (a fellow who teaches at Davidson).  We were going to get breakfast.  I wasn't staying at the conference hotel so brought my "business attire" and changed in his room.  There was a graduate student he wanted me to talk to and I said I'd planned on it -- my schedule was open that day.  Then he had questions about my book project; I said it could wait until breakfast because I was starving.  Everything was fine until I realized I had forgotten my laptop -- I'd have to go back and get it after breakfast.  A bother, but nothing serious. I opened the door of the room to step out onto the hall/balcony (it was an old-style motel with external entry). When I did I noticed the floor was gone.  I tried to stop but had too much forward momentum and plunged down three stories.  Just before hitting the ground I stopped, only a couple of inches from the ground, and just hung there.  I remember fiddling with the grass as I hung there upside down.  At that point I thought "oh, this was only a dream" and woke up.


Occasional Reader 8/8/2020 11:00:48 AM
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Now THIS is hilarious:


https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/08/08/yikes-was-the-hillary-clinton-tim-kaine-2016-ticket-this-forgettable-nyt-opinion-deleted-the-tweet-but-here-it-is/

doppelganglander 8/8/2020 11:11:28 AM
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Reply to lucius septimius in 39:

So you fell but you didn't hit bottom. A positive sign, perhaps.

Kosh's Shadow 8/8/2020 11:52:11 AM
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In #31 JCM said: MAGA the song

Downloadable, too (in Chrome, right click on the player and Save video as.

Should be playable in Windows. It is for me.

Occasional Reader 8/8/2020 3:48:24 PM
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So, after holding off on doing this for about two or three years, due to the price of the thing, I finally bit the bullet and bought a Le Creuset enamaled cast-iron grill pan.  (Which arrived today.)

I'm oddly excited about it. 

So, that's on the "lush life" side of my purchases.  On the other side, I also ordered an IFAK, with a couple of extra "Israeli Bandages".   And that's my prepper side.

Interesting times we live in.  

lucius septimius 8/8/2020 3:55:37 PM
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Reply to Occasional Reader in 43:

I got a very nice enameled Dutch oven from stuff my rich neighbors left for trash pick up.  It had obviously never been used -- probably a wedding gift.  I find all sorts of neat things on my morning walk on trash day.

Kosh's Shadow 8/8/2020 4:16:48 PM
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Reply to lucius septimius in 44:

When my daughter graduated college, the locals came by the senior dorms to pick up stuff the students didn't lug home. They got a good haul.

Occasional Reader 8/8/2020 4:40:32 PM
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In #44 lucius septimius said: I got a very nice enameled Dutch oven from stuff my rich neighbors left for trash pick up.

Which side of the street where you walking on at the time? Did you pass the Dutchie on the left-hand side?

Occasional Reader 8/8/2020 4:41:29 PM
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In #46 Occasional Reader said: where you

Really, voice transcription? Really?

lucius septimius 8/8/2020 4:44:21 PM
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Reply to Occasional Reader in 46:

We always passed to the right, but those were different times.

Occasional Reader 8/8/2020 5:10:54 PM
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Reply to lucius septimius in 48:

I never seriously partook of the substance, myself. I know that makes me kind of strange for our times. It just never interested me much.


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