buzzsawmonkey 9/1/2020 6:44:13 AM

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The headline at OZY, the online magazine of National Progressive Radio, reads "Trump Defends Supporter Charged With Murder."

That's their spin on the Rittenhouse matter.

Occasional Reader 9/1/2020 7:05:43 AM

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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 1:

I can no longer bear listening to NPR, not even for sardonic entertainment. 

JCM 9/1/2020 7:13:18 AM

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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 1:

Where is the headline about Harris raising bail money for rioters, arsonists and looters?

*rhetorical question 

Occasional Reader 9/1/2020 7:14:17 AM

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In #3 JCM said: Where is the headline about Harris raising bail money for rioters, arsonists and looters?

Well, those are all mostly peaceful.

buzzsawmonkey 9/1/2020 7:15:01 AM

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In #2 Occasional Reader said: I can no longer bear listening to NPR, not even for sardonic entertainment. 

I used to admire what appeared to be their substance, even though the substance was slanted.  The substance has diminished dramatically in recent months, to be replaced by contentless blather which assumes the form of substance while being utterly devoid of fact.  

I still listen to it for the purpose of keeping in touch with the way that Left/"progressive" opinion is molded, and because I find the structure of their propagandizing fascinating. They have almost gone full-on Tokyo Rose/Lord Haw Haw.

doppelganglander 9/1/2020 7:16:10 AM

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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 1:

One of the reporters at the White House press conference referred to him as a vigilante. Trump did not take the bait. 

Have you noticed we know nothing about the most recent victim in Portland? They haven't caught the shooter yet, either, and I wonder if they're even trying. His own estranged  family tipped off the police, which tells you a lot.

doppelganglander 9/1/2020 7:20:16 AM

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Portland's Half-Century of Ruinous Leadership

Moral depravity is at the center of progressivism, every single time.

Occasional Reader 9/1/2020 7:25:22 AM

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In #6 doppelganglander said: Have you noticed we know nothing about the most recent victim in Portland? They haven't caught the shooter yet, either, and I wonder if they're even trying. His own estranged  family tipped off the police, which tells you a lot.

It's quite astonishing.

doppelganglander 9/1/2020 7:38:12 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 8:

They couldn't even get his name right. At first they reported it as Bishop and now it's Danielson. I am hoping Andy Ngo is looking into it. He is the only source of accurate information on Antifa.

vxbush 9/1/2020 7:38:30 AM

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In #5 buzzsawmonkey said: I used to admire what appeared to be their substance, even though the substance was slanted.  The substance has diminished dramatically in recent months, to be replaced by contentless blather which assumes the form of substance while being utterly devoid of fact.   I still listen to it for the purpose of keeping in touch with the way that Left/"progressive" opinion is molded, and because I find the structure of their propagandizing fascinating. They have almost gone full-on Tokyo Rose/Lord Haw Haw.

You have to give the MSM media credit. They have created a group of folks who will only believe what the MSM tells them regardless of what the true facts on the ground are. It would be comic if it didn't involve people I know and work with.

Occasional Reader 9/1/2020 7:43:18 AM

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In #9 doppelganglander said: I am hoping Andy Ngo is looking into it. He is the only source of accurate information on Antifa.

Yep.  In a sane world he'd be showered with Pullet Surprises. 

buzzsawmonkey 9/1/2020 7:49:40 AM

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In #11 Occasional Reader said: In a sane world he'd be showered with Pullet Surprises. 

I'd love to see Trump award him a Medal of Freedom.   The howling on the Left would be epic.

buzzsawmonkey 9/1/2020 7:56:07 AM

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doppelganglander 9/1/2020 8:00:10 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 11:

I worry about his safety. Fortunately,  he seems to have developed a network of reporters that are capturing video for him in Portland and elsewhere. 

I haven't heard anything from zombie in years. Do you suppose the Undead One has retired from covering the crazies?

JCM 9/1/2020 8:10:55 AM

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Judge rules I-1639 is constitutional and will remain law in Washington state

Judge Ronald Leighton, a President George W. Bush-appointed federal judge, granted Ferguson’s motion for summary judgment ruling that I-1639 does not violate the Constitution. The law implemented the same enhanced background checks, waiting periods, and purchasing requirements for semiautomatic assault rifle purchases that have long been in place for handgun purchases.

Thing was illegal aside from 2nd Amend arguments. It was illegally written, illegally placed on the ballot.

vxbush 9/1/2020 9:00:37 AM

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In #15 JCM said: Thing was illegal aside from 2nd Amend arguments. It was illegally written, illegally placed on the ballot.

This also is a problem with all the various states and cities' executive orders that have been used to control the populace during COVID-19. Many such orders are not inline with the constitutions that are in place in those areas. 

Occasional Reader 9/1/2020 10:01:06 AM

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Reply to vxbush in 16:Reply to JCM in 15:

Oh, constitutions, are you plebes still hung up on that silly stuff? 

JCM 9/1/2020 10:01:16 AM

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AGENCY FOR INTERNATIONAL DEVELOPMENTET AL. v. ALLIANCE FOR OPEN SOCIETYINTERNATIONAL, INC., ET AL. 

This also nukes those cases regarding foreigners denied entry to the US. As a matter of American constitutional law, foreign citizens outside U. S. territory do not possess rights under the U. S. Constitution

doppelganglander 9/1/2020 10:29:22 AM

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Reply to JCM in 18:

Thank you for tracking that down. I saw a link to an article on a very shady-looking site with no references,  not even the name of the case. This opens the door to the Trump Administration to cut Soros' tentacles in every direction. 

Occasional Reader 9/1/2020 10:40:55 AM

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Reply to JCM in 18:

There's only one answer to this.

MOAR RIOTING

vxbush 9/1/2020 10:43:02 AM

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In #18 JCM said: AGENCY FOR INTERNATIONAL DEVELOPMENTET

Does this mean the US AID department? Where was the case heard before it was pushed to the Supreme Court? 

vxbush 9/1/2020 10:49:04 AM

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In #21 vxbush said: Does this mean the US AID department? Where was the case heard before it was pushed to the Supreme Court? 

Never mind, I found it. Further reading required.

JCM 9/1/2020 10:50:58 AM

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Reply to doppelganglander in 19:

I saw a tweet and my spidey senses tingled so I tracked down the SCOTUS link.

Interesting case, since I don't know the background on it not sure the entire provenance. 

vxbush 9/1/2020 11:01:12 AM

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In #23 JCM said: I saw a tweet and my spidey senses tingled so I tracked down the SCOTUS link. Interesting case, since I don't know the background on it not sure the entire provenance. 

The Wikipedia article doesn't seem too bad...

The United States Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria Act of 2003 was signed into law as a means to fund private non-governmental organizations (NGO) to help fight AIDS and other diseases in foreign countries. As a condition of this funding, entities were required to also promote an anti-prostitution pledge requiring them to establish "a policy explicitly opposing prostitution and sex trafficking", a term known as the Policy Requirement.^[2] This program is overseen through the United States Agency for International Development, the United States Department of Health and Human Services and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

This Policy Requirement was originally challenged by NGO looking to receive the funding as early as 2005 as it was seen as compelled speech, which violated their First Amendment rights and resulted in the Supreme Court case Agency for International Development v. Alliance for Open Society International, Inc., which ruled that the anti-prostitution pledge was compelled speech on American NGOs to mirror the government's view.^[3]

Following the 2013 decision, the government subsequently backed off the Policy Requirement for those NGOs based in the United States, but maintained the requirement for affiliates that were established in a foreign country. Several of the same NGOs on the 2013 case again filed suit on the First Amendment grounds and following the Supreme Court's decision. In both the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York^[4] and United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit,^[5] the courts upheld in favor of the NGOs on the basis of the Supreme Court's prior ruling.

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The responsible government organizations petitioned the Supreme Court, which accepted to hear the case in August 2019. Oral arguments were heard on May 5, 2020, part of the first set of arguments to be held by teleconference due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Justice Elana Kagan, who took no part in the 2013 decision, also did not participate here.

The Court issued its opinion on June 29, 2020. The 5–3 majority decision reversed the Second Circuit. Justice Brett Kavanaugh wrote the major opinion joined by Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito and Neil Gorsuch. Kavanaugh wrote that two factors affect the Court's judgment. First, the foreign affiliates are legally separate entities from the American NGOs, and secondly, "because foreign organizations operating abroad do not possess constitutional rights, those foreign organizations do not have a First Amendment right to disregard the policy requirement."^[6]

In a concurring opinion, Justice Thomas expressed his "continued disagreement" of the 2013 Court decision, stating the federal government's rule "does not violate the First Amendment for a far simpler reason: It does not compel anyone to say anything."^[7]

Justice Stephen Breyer wrote the dissent joined by Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sonia Sotomayor. Breyer wrote that the foreign NGOs were clearly extensions of the American NGOs, and that the American NGOs "speak[s] through clearly identified affiliates that have been incorporated overseas" as his reason to apply the same 2013 decision to those foreign NGOs.^[6]

buzzsawmonkey 9/1/2020 11:18:28 AM

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Occasional Reader 9/1/2020 12:35:48 PM

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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 25:

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Occasional Reader 9/1/2020 12:40:14 PM

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lucius septimius 9/1/2020 12:42:01 PM

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JCM 9/1/2020 1:12:35 PM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 27:

Amatures!

Seattle protesters are pros!

Alice in Dairyland 9/1/2020 1:20:31 PM

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Reply to doppelganglander in 6: Is this the guy?

https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/08/man-under-investigation-in-fatal-shooting-of-right-wing-demonstrator-in-portland-was-outside-mayors-condo-night-before-with-daughter.html

Also, Zombie comments on Ace of Spades quite often.  I suppose he/she is other places too, but that's where I see him/her.

Alice in Dairyland 9/1/2020 1:27:13 PM

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althouse-Kamala was not poor

Her mother was a medical researcher at prestigious institutions, and her father was an economics professor at Stanford.   She knows all about sleepless nights, worrying about how you are going to make to the end of the month though.  

doppelganglander 9/1/2020 2:43:03 PM

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Reply to Alice in Dairyland in 30:

That was my point. We know a lot about the shooter but nothing about the victim. How old was he? Where was he from? Was he an activist or was he just wearing a hat? 

Obviously the shooter is being protected by his thug buddies. I strongly suspect Wheeler has deprioritized the manhunt because it makes Antifa look bad. 

Alice in Dairyland 9/1/2020 2:50:43 PM

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Reply to doppelganglander in 32: Sorry, I misread your comment.  I thought you were wondering about the shooter.

lucius septimius 9/1/2020 3:20:43 PM

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In #32 doppelganglander said: That was my point. We know a lot about the shooter but nothing about the victim. How old was he? Where was he from? Was he an activist or was he just wearing a hat? 

He was a "supporter" of a "far-right" group.  That's all you need to know since it completely justified killing him.

doppelganglander 9/1/2020 4:03:25 PM

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Reply to lucius septimius in 34:

Bret Baier was reading off the teleprompter that referred to him as a member of a right wing organization. He stopped and said, "Well,  they don't consider themselves right wing." Then he  described the rioters- oops, protesters - as left wing,  and again, "They don't consider themselves left wing." Right on the first count, wrong on the second.

Incidentally,  they did not say the victims name or offer any other information. There is something hinky going on here. I'm convinced he was not just some random patriot.