vxbush 1/8/2021 5:41:52 AM

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Morning, campers. I was offline yesterday to have a medical test done at the hospital. Fun, fun. 

I didn't watch any of the live video on Wednesday--I was trying to be responsible and actually get work done--so I watched the most pro-Trump video I could find from InfoWars to see what someone who thought they were doing something good thought. The individual posted a 40-minute single take of his movement on to the capital. It claimed to show the moment Ashli was shot, but it really didn't; he was just in the vicinity when it happened. 

I was appalled about several things: these people thought just walking in a building meant they had "taken" the Capital, when in fact they had done nothing of the sort. And while I was glad to hear people reminding others not to break stuff, the claim that later folks followed the "velvet rope" barricades was false. In one room those velvet borders were taken apart and the velvet portions were lying on the floor. 

What truly bothered me were the moments when folks were trying to break into the Speaker's foyer. What happened to "don't break anything"? I have no idea why this woman was in the front, trying to break in. I think this videographer was late to the moment and just joined that portion of the mob because "something" was happening. 

While this was a mostly behaved mob, it was definitely a mob. And then when Ashli was shot, you can see the police on the scene are really angry. Folks were trying o squeeze in to take the video, but no one was stopping to help her that I could. Granted, that particular area is very narrow, so only a few people could be close enough to help, but someone in the mob should have made a point of clearing people out. Maybe that happen after the video stopped. I was appalled by the behavior of the mob, just watching and yelling at cops, rather than stepping aside or trying to assist with the police. 

Mobs are scary things, and while this wasn't a mob like BLM taking over buildings, neither was it in any way useful, despite what the pro-Trump folks have been saying. However, a very strong Democrat friend was absolutely berating anyone for supporting Trump yesterday and laid everything at his feet and just short of calling for every Republican to be arrested. This morning, I read the comments from yesterday, and saw lots of good comments. 

My last comment--a professional video guy happened to cross paths with this InfoWars guy, and he had pro equipment. When he was asked what company he was with, he said National Geographic. If that's true, then I'm impressed National Geographic had someone on site--but I also think it's possible that the guy was lying to protect himself from getting beaten up because he actually worked with a MSM outlet. Yesterday wasn't like a war zone, so why weren't there *any* of the big-name media people there so they could be witnesses on the scene? Where are all those brave war reporters? You would think they would be in the thick of it as an objective eyewitness, but no. 

In the end, these people were not Poland's Solidarity. Not even close. 

buzzsawmonkey 1/8/2021 6:56:32 AM

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lucius septimius 1/8/2021 7:56:12 AM

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buzzsawmonkey 1/8/2021 8:03:00 AM

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In #3 lucius septimius said: I'm getting deluged with ads for sending my kids to Yeshiva.  Is there something I have missed?

Maybe the yeshivas are being told they need "more diversity"...

doppelganglander 1/8/2021 8:24:09 AM

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JCM 1/8/2021 9:04:09 AM

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Oh! All time high covid deaths! 4000!

Let's apply the metrics for this.

75% of deaths are "with" covid not FROM covid.

1000.

40% of tests are false positives.

600

Now are including all flu, Covid Like Illlness (CLI) in covid numbers.

300

vxbush 1/8/2021 9:25:12 AM

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In #5 doppelganglander said: So I extended the olive branch to my son this morning and I'm waiting to hear back. I'm not angry,  just incredibly sad. I couldn't eat all day, which is unusual for me, and I didn't sleep well. 

I saw your comments yesterday about this. I'm worried about my daughter doing the same thing. She used to understand that the US media was terribly deficient, but lately she seems to be holding more to the MSM line on things. Part of that may be a result of the graduate work she's doing that is leftist dominated. It leaves me concerned. So I really feel for your situation, and will pray for you two.

vxbush 1/8/2021 9:29:31 AM

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In #6 JCM said: Oh! All time high covid deaths! 4000! Let's apply the metrics for this. 75% of deaths are "with" covid not FROM covid. 1000. 40% of tests are false positives. 600 Now are including all flu, Covid Like Illlness (CLI) in covid numbers. 300

Yup, yup, yup. Instead of feature creep, we have illness creep. COVID creep. Stupidity creep.

buzzsawmonkey 1/8/2021 9:31:18 AM

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In #8 vxbush said: we have illness creep. COVID creep. Stupidity creep.

Don't forget the creeps in charge.

doppelganglander 1/8/2021 9:42:24 AM

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Reply to vxbush in 7:

Thank you, and I'll pray for you and your daughter too. To me, this isn't about my son's opinions. He's a grown man and very intelligent. It's that he was so angry that he lashed out at me. I certainly don't approve of rioting. He seems to think I believe in all the most ridiculous conspiracy theories about the election being stolen, etc. What I actually said was that there were a lot of irregularities in some states including Georgia that should have been investigated. I said the lack of transparency in the process was a problem and a lot of people have lost faith in the system. So he can choose to be mad at me for things I never said and don't believe. I can't do much about it.

Kosh's Shadow 1/8/2021 9:56:39 AM

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Alice in Dairyland 1/8/2021 9:58:47 AM

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In #10 doppelganglander said: It's that he was so angry that he lashed out at me.

I read something when I was a young mother that's carried me through all the child rearing days up to and including the adult aged child.  Trying to make it short, it said don't be devastated if your child screams "I hate you" for some action on your part.  That child truly knows in his heart that you love him.  He would never be able to vent his anger so violently if he were afraid you would abandon him and no longer love him.  When confronted with the danger he saw his sister was in, I think he needed to lash out at something/someone.  He knew he could depend on you not to abandon him for it.  You should be very proud you've been such a good mother to him.

Occasional Reader 1/8/2021 9:59:45 AM

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Occasional Reader 1/8/2021 10:00:15 AM

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buzzsawmonkey 1/8/2021 10:00:32 AM

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In #13 Occasional Reader said: So, it's another peachy day, I see.

Nice oblique Georgia reference...

Kosh's Shadow 1/8/2021 10:00:37 AM

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In #13 Occasional Reader said: So, it's another peachy day, I see.

The dems want an im-peachy day

JCM 1/8/2021 10:00:53 AM

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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 9:

Creeps to the right of fraudsters to the left of me.

Here I am stuck in the middle with you.

JCM 1/8/2021 10:01:57 AM

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In #13 Occasional Reader said: So, it's another peachy day, I see.

Only in Georgia, Washington it's an Applely day.

doppelganglander 1/8/2021 10:04:02 AM

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Reply to Alice in Dairyland in 12:

Good advice. He did text me back and he's sorry. I'm glad I reached out first.

JCM 1/8/2021 10:04:15 AM

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JCM 1/8/2021 10:05:41 AM

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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 11:

Tsk, Tsk, you are expecting consistency where there is intentional hypocrisy. 

vxbush 1/8/2021 10:06:38 AM

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In #10 doppelganglander said: Thank you, and I'll pray for you and your daughter too. To me, this isn't about my son's opinions. He's a grown man and very intelligent. It's that he was so angry that he lashed out at me. I certainly don't approve of rioting. He seems to think I believe in all the most ridiculous conspiracy theories about the election being stolen, etc. What I actually said was that there were a lot of irregularities in some states including Georgia that should have been investigated. I said the lack of transparency in the process was a problem and a lot of people have lost faith in the system. So he can choose to be mad at me for things I never said and don't believe. I can't do much about it.

Sorry if I misquoted you; I was attempting to summarize, poorly it seems. Note that the MSM doesn't help when they label such concerns as conspiracy theories with all the negative connotations they can attach to that term.

vxbush 1/8/2021 10:07:52 AM

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In #12 Alice in Dairyland said: I read something when I was a young mother that's carried me through all the child rearing days up to and including the adult aged child.  Trying to make it short, it said don't be devastated if your child screams "I hate you" for some action on your part.  That child truly knows in his heart that you love him.  He would never be able to vent his anger so violently if he were afraid you would abandon him and no longer love him.  When confronted with the danger he saw his sister was in, I think he needed to lash out at something/someone.  He knew he could depend on you not to abandon him for it.  You should be very proud you've been such a good mother to him.

Great words, Alice! I certainly never thought it that way.

vxbush 1/8/2021 10:09:59 AM

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In #19 doppelganglander said: Good advice. He did text me back and he's sorry. I'm glad I reached out first.

I'm glad to hear it. 

buzzsawmonkey 1/8/2021 10:12:23 AM

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In #17 JCM said: Here I am stuck in the middle with you.

Geez, I'm doing what I can to make it amusing...

JCM 1/8/2021 10:13:05 AM

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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 25:

I didn't say it was a bad thing!

Kosh's Shadow 1/8/2021 10:27:42 AM

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Reply to JCM in 20:

Sorry, the road is sealed off

Alice in Dairyland 1/8/2021 10:35:34 AM

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In #19 doppelganglander said: I'm glad I reached out first.

Of course you are.  You're the parent, that's your job.  You set the example for him to follow and confirmed to him to still love him in spite of how he behaves.

doppelganglander 1/8/2021 10:36:12 AM

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Reply to vxbush in 22:

Not at all. I wasn't clear about the exact conversation. One thing I didn't realize is just how upset he was that his sister was in danger. She had checked in and we knew she was okay. I was working instead of watching it on TV so I didn't get too worried about her. It must have looked much worse than I realized. I'm very grateful she's safe.

JCM 1/8/2021 10:46:41 AM

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Simon & Schuster Statement Regarding THE TYRANNY OF BIG TECH by Josh Hawley

Committed a variety of voices and viewpoints... except those that they don't agree with.

What role did Sen. Hawley play... do his duty under the Constitution is a threat to "democrary".

Pet Peeve... WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY!

Occasional Reader 1/8/2021 10:49:16 AM

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In #27 Kosh's Shadow said: Sorry, the road is sealed off

/rimshot

Beat me to it.

Occasional Reader 1/8/2021 10:56:00 AM

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In #30 JCM said: Committed a variety of voices and viewpoints... except those that they don't agree with.

Of course, it’s kind of like how urban neighborhoods that are 99.9% African-American are “diverse“.

@PBJ3 1/8/2021 11:10:14 AM

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Reply to doppelganglander in 5:

 I was sad for you yesterday.  I hope he gets back to you.

Our daughter drank the Coolade awhile ago, sadly.

JCM 1/8/2021 11:10:19 AM

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Boys let the dogs in... one of the dogs brings in a dead rabbit an proudly drops it at my feet.

Occasional Reader 1/8/2021 11:13:05 AM

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In #34 JCM said: a dead rabbit

Uh oh.  It's really not a good idea to mess with those Lower East Side Irish gangs like tha.

JCM 1/8/2021 11:16:12 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 35:

Dogs are good Bowery Bois.....

lucius septimius 1/8/2021 11:17:31 AM

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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 27:

He's just going clubbing.

doppelganglander 1/8/2021 11:25:24 AM

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Reply to @PBJ3 in 33:

All is well. It's a shame how many families have been torn apart by politics. I hope you and your daughter can remain close.

@PBJ3 1/8/2021 12:04:43 PM

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Reply to doppelganglander in 38:

Thanks.  We're doing okay so far.

Kosh's Shadow 1/8/2021 1:51:37 PM

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In #34 JCM said: Boys let the dogs in... one of the dogs brings in a dead rabbit an proudly drops it at my feet.

My dogs keep chasing rabbits but never catch them. Part of that is because of the invisible fence system. Once they rabbit goes beyond the boundary they stop chasing.

buzzsawmonkey 1/8/2021 2:00:58 PM

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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 40:

Kosh---hope you had a chance to look at my #2, relating to last night's conversation.

Kosh's Shadow 1/8/2021 2:01:48 PM

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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 41:

I read it. Thanks. 

JCM 1/8/2021 2:14:59 PM

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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 40:

Chain link around out yard, rabbit got in, couldn't get to whatever hole it used in time.

Kosh's Shadow 1/8/2021 2:23:20 PM

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Reply to JCM in 43:
What kind of dog? We have miniature poodles. We had a toy poodle who almost caught a chipmunk, but it made it to its hole.

JCM 1/8/2021 3:45:12 PM

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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 44:

Pair of Border Collie, Aussie Shepard mixes. Guys are wicked fast.

lucius septimius 1/8/2021 3:49:11 PM

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Reply to JCM in 45:

A friend of mine has two border collies.  One sits in the window waiting for things to bark at when she isn't running in circles making ruts in the yard.

Alice in Dairyland 1/8/2021 4:26:34 PM

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