PaladinPhil 1/20/2021 5:17:29 AM

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vxbush 1/20/2021 5:19:45 AM

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Morning, campers. Busier day today, so not sure how much I'll be on. 

Thanks for the picture above, JCM. I've been trying to get confirmation of exactly who ordered the National Guard into the capital, and while I haven't had enough time to do a deep dive across all the media outlets, I'm not exactly getting the same consistent message--which leaves me extremely confused as to who ordered what. Most articles mention the Secret Service managing this, but I honestly don't recall ever hearing that Secret Service manages all security in the DC area like this. It leaves me greatly confused. 

I have seen QAnon folks say Trump ordered them in and it's all his 3D chess moves, which is ridiculous. Q himself has not posted (that I've seen) since December 8, and Trump conceded earlier this month. 

Occasional Reader 1/20/2021 5:38:50 AM

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Paranoia

Will destroy ya...

https://wtop.com/inauguration/2021/01/dc-on-lockdown-and-on-edge-before-bidens-inauguration/

This is the kind of hysteria being pumped by the mainstream media.

The idea that we need two infantry divisions, “tanks“ (I bet they are not really tanks) and the like, in response to some yahoos in Viking helmets and some online chatter is absolutely preposterous.

This is the poisoned chalice you are drinking from, Joe and Kamala. Enjoy it.

Occasional Reader 1/20/2021 5:58:09 AM

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In #2 vxbush said: exactly who ordered the National Guard into the capital,

I'm wondering the same thing, and not seen firm answers; but the Democrats are certainly on board with it, at the very least. 

vxbush 1/20/2021 6:01:55 AM

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In #4 Occasional Reader said: I'm wondering the same thing, and not seen firm answers; but the Democrats are certainly on board with it, at the very least. 

This is seriously bothering me. I've seen people say Trump or Pence did it; I've seen articles that say Pelosi ordered it through the Sargeant at Arms. It isn't at all clear who made the call. 

Kosh's Shadow 1/20/2021 6:06:41 AM

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In #3 Occasional Reader said: This is the kind of hysteria being pumped by the mainstream media. The idea that we need two infantry divisions, “tanks“ (I bet they are not really tanks) and the like, in response to some yahoos in Viking helmets and some online chatter is absolutely preposterous.

The dems and MSM (but I repeat myself) want everyone to have the impression that Trump supporters are not just "deplorable" but dangerous insurrectionists. I think we'll find that the Republicans have to become a loyal opposition or will be removed for "insurrection". It has started.

vxbush 1/20/2021 6:15:27 AM

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In #6 Kosh's Shadow said: The dems and MSM (but I repeat myself) want everyone to have the impression that Trump supporters are not just "deplorable" but dangerous insurrectionists. I think we'll find that the Republicans have to become a loyal opposition or will be removed for "insurrection". It has started.

Yes, I agree with you. But who made the call? 

buzzsawmonkey 1/20/2021 6:49:47 AM

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You can't beat NPR's Morning Sedition for pure snottiness.  They stated, several times, that they would not carry Trump's departing remarks live, "because they couldn't fact-check any false statements that he might make."

There is nothing so churlish as a Leftist claiming "victory."

vxbush 1/20/2021 7:09:28 AM

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In #8 buzzsawmonkey said: They stated, several times, that they would not carry Trump's departing remarks live, "because they couldn't fact-check any false statements that he might make."

Wow. That almost implies they plan to do this for any Republican in the future where the speech has been provided to the media beforehand, having "debunking" statements up on the screen in real time. 

Occasional Reader 1/20/2021 8:03:47 AM

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In #8 buzzsawmonkey said: "because they couldn't fact-check any false statements that he might make."

Ah, but they're continuously (and in real time) fact-checking all statements Joe Biden (and other Democrats) make, right?  That's good to know... 

Occasional Reader 1/20/2021 8:04:24 AM

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I fucking hate these people.  

I never wanted to have to say that. 

Syrah 1/20/2021 8:20:05 AM

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Occasional Reader 1/20/2021 8:23:25 AM

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In #12 Syrah said: Are we The Resistance now?

Ohmmmm.....

Syrah 1/20/2021 8:28:10 AM

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In #13 Occasional Reader said: Ohmmmm.....

 How soon will the charges of sedition flow?

Syrah 1/20/2021 8:30:07 AM

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Are puns now seditious?

I am just trying to understand the new rules.

JCM 1/20/2021 8:37:53 AM

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JCM 1/20/2021 8:38:57 AM

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In #2 vxbush said: Thanks for the picture above, JCM.

I wanted something that fitted the moment, and that pic is well composed.

Occasional Reader 1/20/2021 8:40:03 AM

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Occasional Reader 1/20/2021 8:41:01 AM

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Reply to JCM in 17:

I was promised “tanks“ by the media. I want to see some photos of “tanks“!

JCM 1/20/2021 8:43:38 AM

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Then

Trump rescinding Obama EO's is unconstitutional, illegal etc... even had suites form Soros AG's against Trump and court rulings to that effect.

Now

Biden first day actions.... rescind Trump EO's.

doppelganglander 1/20/2021 8:48:21 AM

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Reply to JCM in 16:

I'm less interested in who than when. If it was on or after January 6th, it was an attempt to make Trump supporters appear to be a much bigger threat than they are. (Narrator: They are not a threat at all.) The witch hunt for Trump supporters in the National Guard is just more theater to support their false claims that the right is full of violent domestic terrorists. They do this by redefining violence to exclude property damage, attacks on police, and any acts carried out by their pet lunatics in Antifa. It's all about projection. 

JCM 1/20/2021 9:00:40 AM

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Reply to doppelganglander in 21:

It's almost all propaganda theater IMAO. There is enough disparate evidence to strongly suggest any violence at the Capitol was actions of agents provocateur. That has been leveraged out of proportion.

It is setting the stage for some disturbing stuff.

A purge in the Military is one.

We know what that "code" means.

It is already playing out in the civilian sector as "cancel culture".

JCM 1/20/2021 9:04:01 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 19:

Tank Johnson?

Syrah 1/20/2021 9:34:42 AM

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Syrah 1/20/2021 9:41:30 AM

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Inflation is a means to pay down fixed rate debt with cheap new dollars.

Our cash savings will be robbed of value.

Our real estate investments may hold value. (Nothing is guaranteed.)

Commodities may be a refuge.

”Green Energy” schemes may be profitable.

And the damnable, nearly useless paper masks look like they will be here forever so that might be something to look at.

JCM 1/20/2021 9:44:00 AM

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Reply to Syrah in 24:

IMAO I'm thinking 12-18 months.

The trigger will be the covid housing bubble, that is all the landowners who are underwater due to the ban on evictions. A large number of these landowners are going to default on their property loans, leaving banks holding the bag. There will be a dual bailout. One for the banks, two the government buying up a large number of these investment properties to protect the renters in them, it will be focused largely on minorities.

The bill for that will be in the my estimation $6 Trillion.

That will panic the markets, and set it all off. Hyperinflation, a recession bordering on depression, double digit interest, unemployment and inflation.

Please keep your seatbelts bucket we're in for some turbulence.

Syrah 1/20/2021 9:46:09 AM

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It is damned difficult to avoid buying Chinese made crap.

i think that problem will now certainly get worse.

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i was looking at purchasing a mini-pc to replace an old machine. There are now mainland China companies pushing out attractively featured products at substantially lower prices than the non-Chinese made products. 

i wonder if we are looking at a shift in innovation from the west to the east.

Occasional Reader 1/20/2021 9:47:04 AM

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Kosh's Shadow 1/20/2021 9:55:10 AM

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In #27 Syrah said: i was looking at purchasing a mini-pc to replace an old machine. There are now mainland China companies pushing out attractively featured products at substantially lower prices than the non-Chinese made products. 

Probably preloaded with spyware. Lenovo is cheap, but I don't trust them.

doppelganglander 1/20/2021 9:59:50 AM

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Reply to Syrah in 27:

I need a new phone. I would prefer one that's not made by Uighurs held in slavery. Samsung, which I have now, is a South Korean company, but I think they do some manufacturing in China.

JCM 1/20/2021 10:00:33 AM

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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 29:

I've now worked 3 places where Lenovo equipment was prohibited.

Syrah 1/20/2021 10:03:15 AM

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Reply to JCM in 26:

Your 12-18 month estimate matches my own guess. I was thinking that there is even a possibility that they could stall it to just past the midterm elections.

Looking at our local property market here in the Seattle area, we are seeing a lot of home purchasers leaving the City for outlying neighborhoods. My neighborhood has seen dramatic increases in home sale prices.

The Covid Panic and the riots are destroying the big blue cities. There is no need for the office towers in a work at home economy. There is no reason to live in Seattle if you can do the same work from home. The rioters are awful. Who wants to live in a city where they let spoiled children block freeways and smash small businesses?

I have been fortunate in that my renters are still paying their rent. If they can keep it going till the end of these insane moratoriums, we can keep the property and won’t have to panic sell it.

I am hoping that I will be able to leverage my property here to make a purchase out in a RedZone at some date here in the future. Some place full to the brim of big empty open spaces and crowed with a substantial lack of people. Even desert property is looking good now.

Syrah 1/20/2021 10:09:05 AM

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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 29:

lenovo is a no go. 

what are your thoughts on MSI?

JCM 1/20/2021 10:15:45 AM

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Reply to Syrah in 32:

I hadn't factored in the office space. That takes a lot longer. A lot of property is outright owned or multi-year leases.

Tech companies will be looking divest office space and save that cost when employees can successfully work from home.

Syrah 1/20/2021 10:19:09 AM

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Reply to Syrah in 32:

Seattle is not the city it was when I moved here 20 years ago.

https://www.q13fox.com/news/as-crime-rises-in-seattle-one-mother-considers-moving-after-disturbing-incident-involving-her-children

buzzsawmonkey 1/20/2021 10:19:49 AM

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There they was, just a-marchin' down the street 
Demanding "unity" is what these dumb dhimmis do
Burning down business districts is their greatest feat
Demanding "unity" is what these dumb dhimmis do
They looted (they looted!)
They smashed stuff (smashed stuff!)
Trying to pretend they were tough...

---Manspread Mann

Kosh's Shadow 1/20/2021 10:26:17 AM

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Reply to Syrah in 33:

I don't know that company. I can't always afford Dell, but when I can, that's what I get, and business grade (not as good as the companies I have worked for, they get more expensive ones than I can afford) but not the cheapest consumer ones.

Occasional Reader 1/20/2021 10:31:25 AM

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Reply to Syrah in 35:

“ They’ve been victims of a home invasion multiple times.”

w. t. F?!!!

And that’s just the preface to the story?

Occasional Reader 1/20/2021 10:39:49 AM

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This is not actually North Korean television, it just looks like it:

https://notthebee.com/article/this-unbelievably-orwellian-30-second-cnn-clip-is-the-perfect-preview-to-what-we-can-look-forward-to-for-the-next-4-years

JCM 1/20/2021 10:41:53 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 38:

It's okay, they are poor homeless people invading the house, they are justified.

There is a bill in the Clowncil that poverty, mental or drug issues are an affirmative exculpatory defense for property crimes and simple assaults.

There is a number of homeless camps in the Wallingford neighborhood, as well as a couple of the small house "legal" camps.

Q13 Fox is at least saying crime is up, the other major outlets won't even say that much.

JCM 1/20/2021 10:44:15 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 39:

I feel so warm and fuzzy with Uncle Joe's arms around me. I mean he'll keep me safe from Corona and Russia, and all the hate.

Occasional Reader 1/20/2021 10:50:27 AM

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Reply to JCM in 41:

Look, your hair just smells so terrific, he just can’t help himself.

Occasional Reader 1/20/2021 10:50:58 AM

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In #31 JCM said: I've now worked 3 places where Lenovo equipment was prohibited.

Wow.  Did they say exactly why?

vxbush 1/20/2021 10:51:14 AM

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In #41 JCM said: I feel so warm and fuzzy with Uncle Joe's arms around me. I mean he'll keep me safe from Corona and Russia, and all the hate.

You keep telling yourself that while he sniffs your hair. 

vxbush 1/20/2021 10:56:55 AM

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In #43 Occasional Reader said: Wow.  Did they say exactly why?

Lenovo was the company that bought the laptop arm of IBM and is, if I am not mistaken, in bed with the Communist Party. I have asked the question (with many frowns sent my way) about this issue at Lenovo tech meetings, and they always poo-poo it and divert attention to how many companies use their products and how they're number 1 on some chart. But they never answer this question outright. 

(I am not well liked for being willing to ask such questions that are deemed impolite.)

doppelganglander 1/20/2021 10:58:58 AM

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Reply to vxbush in 44:

I still don't understand why women let him get away with it, let alone allowing him to grope their children. I don't care how many cameras there are, if he tried that with me he'd get a sharp elbow to the groin. 

Kosh's Shadow 1/20/2021 11:00:06 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 43:

Lenovo is owned by China, and iirc, the Army.

The hardware cannot be trusted with any information the CCP wants to steal. It could include back doors, etc. 

vxbush 1/20/2021 11:00:15 AM

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In #46 doppelganglander said: I still don't understand why women let him get away with it, let alone allowing him to grope their children. I don't care how many cameras there are, if he tried that with me he'd get a sharp elbow to the groin. 

It may be that stuff happens off-stage and we are never privy to those moments. That's my hope, at the very least, if not a major rearrangement of the folks in front of the camera to move him away. 

JCM 1/20/2021 11:02:30 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 43:

Current place and last place is security, current place is ITAR and EAR, most things satellite related iare dual purpose, if you can use it on a satellite you can use it on a weapons system, last place was straight up DoD contractor. Previous place just didn't like the risk to IP.

vxbush 1/20/2021 11:03:10 AM

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In #47 Kosh's Shadow said: Lenovo is owned by China, and iirc, the Army. The hardware cannot be trusted with any information the CCP wants to steal. It could include back doors, etc. 

This Quora question notes some tentacles as well. 

vxbush 1/20/2021 11:03:12 AM

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In #47 Kosh's Shadow said: Lenovo is owned by China, and iirc, the Army. The hardware cannot be trusted with any information the CCP wants to steal. It could include back doors, etc. 

This Quora question notes some tentacles as well. 

JCM 1/20/2021 11:05:08 AM

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Reply to vxbush in 45:

Correct IBM's pc division was bought by Lenovo.

There isn't much that operates in the PRC that isn't controlled to some respect by the PLA. From complete ownership and control to a socialistic, private ownership, most activities have to be approved.

vxbush 1/20/2021 11:06:10 AM

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Reply to vxbush in 51:

Sigh. One too many presses of the return key.

Occasional Reader 1/20/2021 11:20:41 AM

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In #51 vxbush said: notes some tentacles as well. 

Tentacles?  I thought that was more of a Japan thing, not China...

vxbush 1/20/2021 11:41:17 AM

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In #54 Occasional Reader said: Tentacles?  I thought that was more of a Japan thing, not China...

Perhaps dragon would be a better metaphor? 

Occasional Reader 1/20/2021 11:46:11 AM

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Kosh's Shadow 1/20/2021 12:39:48 PM

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In #56 Occasional Reader said: Say, where is that invading Qanon army, anyway?

In their parents' basements. Where else would Qanon'ers be?

Occasional Reader 1/20/2021 12:47:25 PM

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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 57:

 But but but I was assured that we needed two infantry divisions occupying the city in order to prevent a wildly violent attack by these people. Surely the mainstream media didn’t lie to me, did they?

Kosh's Shadow 1/20/2021 12:53:04 PM

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In #58 Occasional Reader said: Surely the mainstream media didn’t lie to me, did they?

They run everything past their fact checkers.

lucius septimius 1/20/2021 1:16:46 PM

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Kosh's Shadow 1/20/2021 1:32:55 PM

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In #60 lucius septimius said: Biden said that his administration will "confront" "white supremacy."  So much for "unity."

You didn't get the message that his civil rights pick thinks blacks are superior? Whites will be at the bottom of the list for all jobs.

Kosh's Shadow 1/20/2021 2:09:29 PM

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Occasional Reader 1/20/2021 2:24:01 PM

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Occasional Reader 1/20/2021 2:26:33 PM

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Biden‘s picks are really starting to resemble that terrorist conference at the beginning of “police squad“:

https://lidblog.com/robert-malley-iran/

Kosh's Shadow 1/20/2021 2:34:57 PM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 64:

All his State Dept picks are Obama era retreads who "negotiated" the Iran deal. But this time, they claim they'll consult with Israel and Saudi Arabia. Consultation will probably in the form of something they can't refuse. 

PaladinPhil 1/20/2021 2:59:48 PM

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Occasional Reader 1/20/2021 3:23:09 PM

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In #66 PaladinPhil said: The Squire won't be returning to school next week.

!!!

what happened?

PaladinPhil 1/20/2021 3:51:32 PM

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In #67 Occasional Reader said: what happened?

They're keeping things locked down tight still. Worrying about the "health" aspects of opening up the schools. *eye roll*

And to top it all off there's going to be a family conference with my mom explaining to her that it's no longer feasible for her to stay in her own home. Hospital definitely sent her home far too soon.

Occasional Reader 1/20/2021 3:58:07 PM

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Reply to PaladinPhil in 68:

oh, I thought you meant that he, personally was was being kicked out of school. Well, in terms of everything being virtual, welcome to my world.

Kosh's Shadow 1/20/2021 4:57:08 PM

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I'm already getting email from the Biden White House. 

The first press release was edited by someone from the Huffington Post.