vxbush 2/24/2021 5:29:21 AM

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Occasional Reader 2/24/2021 7:29:49 AM

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In #1 vxbush said: This is one of those days when I wish I could have caffeine again. 

In other words, a day ending in "-y"?

lucius septimius 2/24/2021 7:34:50 AM

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Occasional Reader 2/24/2021 8:02:02 AM

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A reference I saw at Lileks to how the Left is all into this woo-woo stuff about how non-Western (and therefore, superior, natch) cultures value the oral tradition, etc. etc. reminds me of a workplace training event I had to sit through some months back, given by an insufferable "expert" (associated with Harvard - again, natch) on "dealing with disruptive change".

In the first session, he played a video segment from the movie Dances With Wolves, in which the Lakota Sioux are sitting around a fire discussing how to deal with the arrival of Kevin Costner's character in particular, and white people in general. The expert then gushed about how, oooh, ahh, see how the Sioux have this amazing tradition of discussing problems in a large group, verbally, while taking turns speaking, and listening to each other?!

As if they were the only culture to ever do that.

The facilitator then invited participants to comment, and of course most people, sheeplike, said oooh ahh they took turns speaking and were so respectful. My contribution was: I notice only the men are speaking [which is true].

Had I wanted to gadfly a bit further, I might have added: "Hey, speaking of 'dealing with disruptive change', how did the Lakota Sioux wind up faring on that?", but I like my job, so...

Addendum: Mr. Harvard Expert also distinguished himself by saying in passing that the movie takes place during "the Revolutionary War". I gently corrected him. [eyeroll]

JCM 2/24/2021 8:12:52 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 4:

My thought.... so a movie made by Hollywood, funded by whites and a fictional story accurate represented the Sioux?

Kosh's Shadow 2/24/2021 8:12:58 AM

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In #4 Occasional Reader said: sheeplike, said oooh ahh they took turns speaking and were so respectful. 

Of course they took turns speaking. The script said so. Now, were real Lakota Sioux discussions so polite or did the tomahawks come out?

buzzsawmonkey 2/24/2021 8:15:01 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 4:

I have to take some kind of virtual wokie seminar in a few weeks.  Not looking forward to it.

Occasional Reader 2/24/2021 8:15:17 AM

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In #5 JCM said: My thought.... so a movie made by Hollywood, funded by whites and a fictional story accurate represented the Sioux?

Oh, Mr. Harvard Expert insisted he had checked this out with Real Live Lakota Sioux, and that yes, it's twue, it's twue! [in the immortal words of Lili von Scthupp], this is how they roll.

Occasional Reader 2/24/2021 8:15:59 AM

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In #7 buzzsawmonkey said: virtual wokie seminar

Let the wokie win... 

buzzsawmonkey 2/24/2021 8:27:50 AM

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In #9 Occasional Reader said: Let the wokie win... 

Heh.

Occasional Reader 2/24/2021 9:28:14 AM

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And while his stuff was never exactly my cup of tea: RIP, Lawrence Ferlinghetti. 

lucius septimius 2/24/2021 9:28:27 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 9:

ISWYDT

Kosh's Shadow 2/24/2021 9:35:27 AM

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In #8 Occasional Reader said: Mr. Harvard Expert insisted he had checked this out with Real Live Lakota Sioux,

Sure he did.  Probably had a chat with Liz Warren (who is not Sioux)

Occasional Reader 2/24/2021 9:49:39 AM

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In #13 Kosh's Shadow said: Sure he did.

Maybe he did, and maybe they indeed, insisted that "our ancestors invented the staff meeting".   His assertion would still be stupid. 

buzzsawmonkey 2/24/2021 10:02:40 AM

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In #13 Kosh's Shadow said: Liz Warren (who is not Sioux)

Whaaaaaaaat?  She's a lawyer, and claims to be Indian.  Of course she's "Sioux."

lucius septimius 2/24/2021 2:13:09 PM

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Kosh's Shadow 2/24/2021 2:16:19 PM

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In #16 lucius septimius said: Biden's nominee for Sec. of the Interior -- replace lost revenues from oil and gas with revenue from marijuana sales.

Either pot would be unaffordable, or there are more pot smokers than people in the US. A few million Cheech and Chongs couldn't pay that much.

Kosh's Shadow 2/24/2021 2:16:47 PM

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In #17 Kosh's Shadow said: In #16 lucius septimius said: Biden's nominee for Sec. of the Interior -- replace lost revenues from oil and gas with revenue from marijuana sales. Either pot would be unaffordable, or there are more pot smokers than people in the US. A few million Cheech and Chongs couldn't pay that much.

Must be using ethnomath

Occasional Reader 2/24/2021 3:15:03 PM

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JCM 2/24/2021 3:39:50 PM

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Reply to lucius septimius in 16:

One toke over the line.....

lucius septimius 2/24/2021 3:45:51 PM

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Reply to JCM in 20:

Um ... that was, uh, different.

Kosh's Shadow 2/24/2021 3:54:01 PM

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Reply to lucius septimius in 21:

I thought it was wunnerful, wunnerful/

Parents were BIG Lawrence Welk fans. One year I gave them a VHS tape of his shows when the NH public TV station showed them for a while, recorded off the air.

That was one of the best things I gave them.

JCM 2/24/2021 3:54:25 PM

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Reply to lucius septimius in 21:

I don't think Lawrence understood the lyrics....

Occasional Reader 2/24/2021 4:38:25 PM

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Reply to JCM in 23:

without even clicking the link, let me guess: “One toke over the line“?

JCM 2/24/2021 4:47:29 PM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 24:

That phrase was what came to mine with the Energy Sec. Nominee saying marijuana revenue will replace oil and gas revenue.