vxbush 10/11/2023 5:46:41 AM

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Robert Spencer lays out the justification of Fatah and Hamas for their attack this weekend. Nothing new to those of us who have been following them since the early 2000's, but good to have it documented for all to see.

However, there are some inconsistencies in another aspect of the story. Spencer writes: 

Meanwhile, on Saturday, Hamas military commander Mohammed Deif hailed the beginning of what he called“Operation Al-Aqsa Deluge.” He said that the massacres of that day were just the “first strike,” and that much more was coming.

That differs from what I saw yesterday or Monday about Hamas already calling for a ceasefire. 

vxbush 10/11/2023 5:51:44 AM

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vxbush 10/11/2023 5:55:44 AM

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JCM 10/11/2023 6:55:29 AM

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Reply to vxbush in 1:

Hamas ceasefire, pause to rearm, rest for next assault.

But we all know that.

vxbush 10/11/2023 7:08:55 AM

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In #4 JCM said: Hamas ceasefire, pause to rearm, rest for next assault. But we all know that.

Yes. So I have to wonder about the mixed messaging, given that the consensus seems to be that Iran is dictating the show and helping the Palestinians organize this.

Occasional Reader 10/11/2023 7:31:47 AM

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Occasional Reader 10/11/2023 8:05:28 AM

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One surprise for me has been to learn how strict Israel's gun "control" laws actually are (they have now been relaxed... but still, pretty bad).  

You'd think that if any country would understand the value of the right to self-defense... 

vxbush 10/11/2023 8:10:55 AM

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In #7 Occasional Reader said: You'd think that if any country would understand the value of the right to self-defense... 

Perhaps, instead, they were concerned about residents who weren't Jewish, such as Arabs, having the chance to become martyrs for the cause--and how many people they could take with them. 

Occasional Reader 10/11/2023 8:30:42 AM

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Reply to vxbush in 8:

Maybe.  I'd think those types would have little trouble getting weapons anyway.  So once again, it's disarming only the law-abiding. 

vxbush 10/11/2023 8:39:34 AM

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In #9 Occasional Reader said: Maybe.  I'd think those types would have little trouble getting weapons anyway.  So once again, it's disarming only the law-abiding. 

True. 

doppelganglander 10/11/2023 9:42:50 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 7:

That shocked me, too. Considering that every able-bodied Israeli serves in the IDF, you'd think they would trust civilians with firearms. 

buzzsawmonkey 10/11/2023 9:58:24 AM

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"Does this bomb-belt make me look Fatah?"

---Arab terrorist

doppelganglander 10/11/2023 10:05:05 AM

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There was a pro-Israel rally in my city last night (we have four synagogues, IIRC, and of course there are many others in Atlanta). The crowd was estimated at 5,000 but it may have been more. I'm so proud of my neighbors.

Sandy Springs Pro-Israel Rally

vxbush 10/11/2023 10:10:11 AM

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In #13 doppelganglander said: There was a pro-Israel rally in my city last night (we have four synagogues, IIRC, and of course there are many others in Atlanta). The crowd was estimated at 5,000 but it may have been more. I'm so proud of my neighbors.

Glad to hear it. I expect there to be a pro-Hamas rally in a nearby town any day now.

doppelganglander 10/11/2023 10:29:55 AM

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Reply to vxbush in 14:

Near you or me? It could happen in Atlanta but I think it's less likely than, say, Chicago or other major cities. 

vxbush 10/11/2023 11:05:26 AM

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In #15 doppelganglander said: Near you or me?

Near me. With several large universities in the area, they always have pro-Palestinian groups ready to march at the drop of a hat. 

Occasional Reader 10/11/2023 12:06:37 PM

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Report: Founding member of Hamas Abd al-Fattah Dukhan killed in IAF airstrike

YAY

JCM 10/11/2023 12:07:36 PM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 17:

Rest in Pieces!

Occasional Reader 10/11/2023 12:16:08 PM

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Reply to JCM in 18:

He was, no doubt, an "austere religious scholar".  

/just warming up for the NYT obit

Kosh's Shadow 10/11/2023 6:08:27 PM

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In #19 Occasional Reader said: /just warming up for the NYT obit

The New York Times And 8 Other Great Toilet Paper Alternatives

I disagree about Der NY Shturmer, though; its pages are already covered with shit

JCM 10/11/2023 6:18:15 PM

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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 20:

I lined my parrot's cage with the NY Times.

He refused to shit on it, it was beneath him.

Kosh's Shadow 10/11/2023 6:44:47 PM

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Reply to JCM in 21:

Your parrot is smarter than the MSM