JCM 10/18/2020 6:40:08 PM

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Kosh's Shadow 10/19/2020 5:05:03 AM

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Reply to JCM in 1:

I saw you set the threads for the week but after I set up this one.

Off to work as I look up at the work computer

Occasional Reader 10/19/2020 5:46:44 AM

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(Reposting; and good morning to y’all)

This dangerous moron might actually become the next president of the United States.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/407633/#respond

lucius septimius 10/19/2020 5:54:17 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 3:

Meanwhile the Propaganda Company is refusing to report on Hunter's laptop.  If it had belonged to any of Trump's kids there'd be wall to wall coverage.

vxbush 10/19/2020 6:11:46 AM

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In #4 lucius septimius said: Meanwhile the Propaganda Company is refusing to report on Hunter's laptop.  If it had belonged to any of Trump's kids there'd be wall to wall coverage.

I thought part of that might be because the info was delivered to Giuliani, but I came to my sensed quickly and realized it was just because it was the truth against Biden.

But I want to push home one thing: the news reports keep claiming this was a "hack", and it is nothing of the sort. This businessman who turned this information in had every legal right to do what he did, as the property is now his. Hunter revoked his privilege to that machine when he left it there for over 6 months, despite repeated attempts by the tech guy to return the laptop.

On that note, good morning, campers. My office was 59º F. this morning. Thank goodness I have a space heater here, but I'm going to complain to management today.

Occasional Reader 10/19/2020 6:16:21 AM

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In #5 vxbush said: the news reports keep claiming this was a "hack",

it's RUSSIANS! RUSSIANS!  RUSSIANS!!!!!!

Occasional Reader 10/19/2020 6:18:35 AM

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In #4 lucius septimius said: Meanwhile the Propaganda Company is refusing to report on Hunter's laptop. 

Sean Ono Lennon - of all people - has described what's happening here as "Stalinist". 

(I have no idea how he turned out to have such a good head on his shoulders.) 

Occasional Reader 10/19/2020 6:20:25 AM

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In #7 Occasional Reader said: (I have no idea how he turned out to have such a good head on his shoulders.) 

Well... on that one, particular issue, anyway... 

doppelganglander 10/19/2020 7:03:08 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 6:

I can't recall who it was, but two weeks before the big reveal, someone claimed Giuliani was being given Russian disinformation, apparently referring to the laptop. They probably thought it would work because at least 50% of the country doesn't know the Russian collusion story was thoroughly debunked. The same people also believe Trump and his kids are enriching themselves through his office, despite zero evidence. If you understand projection, you will always know what the Democrats are really up to.

buzzsawmonkey 10/19/2020 7:07:39 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 3:

Which of the two dangerous morons topping the Democrats' ticket are you referring to?

buzzsawmonkey 10/19/2020 7:08:59 AM

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In #7 Occasional Reader said: Sean Ono Lennon - of all people - has described what's happening here as "Stalinist".  (I have no idea how he turned out to have such a good head on his shoulders.) 

Probably merely a matter of rebelling against his parental influences.

vxbush 10/19/2020 7:14:36 AM

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In #10 buzzsawmonkey said: Which of the two dangerous morons topping the Democrats' ticket are you referring to?

Are they not equally moronic? 

Occasional Reader 10/19/2020 7:17:43 AM

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In #10 buzzsawmonkey said: Which of the two dangerous morons topping the Democrats' ticket are you referring to?

The one suggesting that a cop who's being attacked by a guy brandishing a knife should attempt to "shoot 'im in the leg".  (That would be "Tactical Joe" Biden, the same guy who suggested that you should shoot through your own front door (with a shotgun) at suspected burglars.)

Harris, I think, is a mediocrity, but not a moron. 

lucius septimius 10/19/2020 7:42:36 AM

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In #13 Occasional Reader said: Harris, I think, is a mediocrity, but not a moron. 

Though she is something of a moron in believing that just because she's in a position of power (probably on account of being a mediocrity) she therefore is smarter than everyone else.

vxbush 10/19/2020 7:47:27 AM

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In #14 lucius septimius said: Though she is something of a moron in believing that just because she's in a position of power (probably on account of being a mediocrity) she therefore is smarter than everyone else.

Oh, I would say that her ability to think she should run for president after one term in the Senate is evidence of her moronity, as she is no Obama. (And we know he had lots and lots of help.)

JCM 10/19/2020 7:51:36 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 3:

Rah! Rah! Ree! Shoot 'em in the knew!

JCM 10/19/2020 7:53:21 AM

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Man using drugs accidentally burns trailer down trying to remove raccoons, deputies say

And it's not Florida Man!

JCM 10/19/2020 7:53:52 AM

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Reply to JCM in 16:

Knee! Knee!

Me and my fat fingers!

buzzsawmonkey 10/19/2020 7:59:14 AM

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There was some hoo-ha yesterday about Ice Cube, who apparently has some kind of initiative he's interested in to "increase wealth in the black community." Apparently, he approached both the Trump and Biden campaigns with this plan; Biden's people said they'd "get back to him" after the election, while Trump's people are at least talking to him. Cube was being attacked by the Democrat Plantation crowd for "selling out" by talking to Trump, and he was defending himself.

OK. He's got a plan, he wants government participation, he's willing to talk to anyone who will talk with him, even if he disagrees with them on other issues. That's nice.

But---excuse me---there are a lot of black people in this country who are rolling in wealth, Ice Cube among them. Howzabout Jay Z and Beyonce? Oprah Winfrey? Don Lemon? The Obamas? Lots of others. Has any of them thought to start a black-owned bank, credit union, or building and loan? Poor immigrants in decades past---Poles, Ukrainians, Jews, many others---who were shut out from standard financial institutions started these things on their own, often without the backing of wealthy co-ethnics, but simply by clubbing their own money together, and this is part of how they were able to buy homes and start businesses.

Why does everything have to be under the wing of Big Daddy Government? Why can these black multimillionaires, so concerned about the state of "their community," not get together to start, and to help "their community" start, the same institutions which have in the past ratcheted so many others from poverty to the middle class?

vxbush 10/19/2020 8:04:29 AM

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In #18 JCM said: Me and my fat fingers!

It's either that or some really creative spelling. 

JCM 10/19/2020 8:04:43 AM

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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 19:

The biggest coup of the left.

"Somebody do something"ism. With the "somebody" always being government.

The corollary is "there outta be a law" meaning a Federal Law.

The news is good at that one. Find a problem, and they always have a line "there is no Federal Regulation".

vxbush 10/19/2020 8:06:51 AM

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In #19 buzzsawmonkey said: Why does everything have to be under the wing of Big Daddy Government? Why can these black multimillionaires, so concerned about the state of "their community," not get together to start, and to help "their community" start, the same institutions which have in the past ratcheted so many others from poverty to the middle class?

I'm guessing, of course, but given the way *everything* must be done by the government--according to the media--they have already been indoctrinated to think that the government is the only one who can implement a solution. The idea of being independent and doing it on your own could be considered foolish in some communities. 

Occasional Reader 10/19/2020 8:07:23 AM

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In #19 buzzsawmonkey said: Has any of them thought to start a black-owned bank,

Well, that idea would be subject to the rational criticism: why?  What would a “black owned bank“ do that a regular ol’ bank would not do?

Occasional Reader 10/19/2020 8:08:28 AM

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I could totally see little OR doing this:

https://nypost.com/2020/10/17/5-year-old-boy-gets-lifetime-zoo-pass-for-spotting-stolen-lemur/

And he would then point out that the lemur is shaped like Paraguay, or something like that.

vxbush 10/19/2020 8:12:31 AM

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In #23 Occasional Reader said: Well, that idea would be subject to the rational criticism: why?  What would a “black owned bank“ do that a regular ol’ bank would not do?

Perception is key, and are you more likely to borrow money from people who look like you? 

doppelganglander 10/19/2020 8:24:00 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 24:

When I saw the story, I double checked to see if it was Little OR.

JCM 10/19/2020 8:24:38 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 23:

Micro-loans.

Have been enormously successful in parts of Africa and India.

Scale the loans for the US.

Food Desert? Loan some people in the neighborhood capital for a market?

doppelganglander 10/19/2020 8:31:16 AM

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Reply to vxbush in 25:

Despite federal law, black borrowers often believe they're discriminated against in lending. The reality is they often have less wealth,  more debt, and derogatory information on their credit report. They may believe their chances are better with a black-owned bank. The bank may be more flexible and make loans to less qualified borrowers, but if they don't adhere fairly closely to standard lending practices,  the bank will fail.

Occasional Reader 10/19/2020 8:33:54 AM

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In #25 vxbush said: are you more likely to borrow money from people who look like you? 

Uh... no.  I do understand that the "minorities can only deal with people who look like them" talking point has been constantly pushed by the "anti-racist" Left (Irony is so, like, ironic, in the words of WriterMom); but it's quite a stupid concept.  (As I suspect you know.) 

Occasional Reader 10/19/2020 8:34:30 AM

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In #26 doppelganglander said: When I saw the story, I double checked to see if it was Little OR.

And he'd then comment that the lemur is shaped like Paraguay, or something like that. 

vxbush 10/19/2020 8:37:27 AM

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In #29 Occasional Reader said: Uh... no.  I do understand that the "minorities can only deal with people who look like them" talking point has been constantly pushed by the "anti-racist" Left (Irony is so, like, ironic, in the words of WriterMom); but it's quite a stupid concept.  (As I suspect you know.) 

Yes, I do. But it is the sole reason given for why we need to have every single identity group presented in leadership positions throughout society, as if I made a determination to follow mathematics based on the lack of female teachers in my math classes in high school. (Insert eye roll here.)

But I'm starting to discover that a lot of people are controlled by peer pressure in ways I never was. 

Occasional Reader 10/19/2020 8:37:39 AM

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In #27 JCM said: Micro-loans. Have been enormously successful in parts of Africa and India. Scale the loans for the US. Food Desert? Loan some people in the neighborhood capital for a market?

Sure!  But none of that has to be "black-owned".  They could be owned by... oh, I dunno, a whole bunch of different people, of different ethnicities, for instance.

This concept that "black-owned businesses" (or [fill in blank with ethno-racial group]-owned) are somehow morally superior is pernicious, and should be resisted. 

buzzsawmonkey 10/19/2020 8:37:55 AM

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In #23 Occasional Reader said: Well, that idea would be subject to the rational criticism: why?  What would a “black owned bank“ do that a regular ol’ bank would not do?

The small mutual-aid societies---I believe the Ukrainian National Home aid society is still functioning on the Lower East Side, or was until recently---the various small "building and loan" societies like the Bailey Building & Loan in It's a Wonderful Life, which actually existed all over the place, etc., etc., would be able to do small-business and possibly even some home-ownership loans.

To be fair, there is, or was, a small organization along these lines that was located in Bedford Stuyvesant about 20 years ago, and when I was in an ill-fated business venture with a female partner we went there because they favored making loans to women, and we were investigating some financing.  A few such places do exist---but why only a few?  Why are they not publicized?  Why are they not touted---and partially financed---by all these "community-minded" people?  Making people aware of these entities, educating "the community" as to what they can do/be used for, would be far more valuable and beneficial than "partnering" with the federal government.

vxbush 10/19/2020 8:43:34 AM

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In #33 buzzsawmonkey said: To be fair, there is, or was, a small organization along these lines that was located in Bedford Stuyvesant about 20 years ago, and when I was in an ill-fated business venture with a female partner we went there because they favored making loans to women, and we were investigating some financing.  A few such places do exist---but why only a few?  Why are they not publicized?  Why are they not touted---and partially financed---by all these "community-minded" people?  Making people aware of these entities, educating "the community" as to what they can do/be used for, would be far more valuable and beneficial than "partnering" with the federal government.

I'm going to take your questions as rhetorical, because there are fewer opportunities for graft if you don't petition the federal or local government. 

Occasional Reader 10/19/2020 8:44:34 AM

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In #33 buzzsawmonkey said: would be far more valuable and beneficial than "partnering" with the federal government.

Well, that depends on the question "valuable and beneficial to whom?", but you knew that. 

JCM 10/19/2020 8:47:19 AM

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In #32 Occasional Reader said: This concept that "black-owned businesses" (or [fill in blank with ethno-racial group]-owned) are somehow morally superior is pernicious, and should be resisted. 

True dat!

But nothing is stop this rich entertainers from going into a community and asking, "who wants to run a grocer?"

Marshawn Lynch has done that in Oakland. There were several neighborhood business and restaurants he's "invested" in to keep them in the community.

vxbush 10/19/2020 8:49:01 AM

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In #36 JCM said: But nothing is stop this rich entertainers from going into a community and asking, "who wants to run a grocer?"

So someone could literally become a sugar daddy?

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Occasional Reader 10/19/2020 8:51:50 AM

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In #36 JCM said: Marshawn Lynch

Triggering!!! Problematic!!!!

Occasional Reader 10/19/2020 8:54:21 AM

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In #33 buzzsawmonkey said: located in Bedford Stuyvesant about 20 years ago, and when I was in an ill-fated business venture with a female partner

In retrospect, you should have just let them put up those photos of MLK and Malcom X on the wall of your pizzeria...

/okay, that was more like 30 years ago, but poetic license and all that

Occasional Reader 10/19/2020 8:55:29 AM

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In #34 vxbush said: I'm going to take your questions as rhetorical

And the best response to a Rhettorical question is always: "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn."

Occasional Reader 10/19/2020 8:59:21 AM

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In #16 JCM said: Rah! Rah! Ree! Shoot 'em in the knew!

By the way, this idea that Senile Joe articulates (well, sort of) that the cop in Lancaster should have just magically "de-escalated the situation" of a guy just a few yards away charging at him with a knife, and/or done some sort of trick shooting to peacefully-ish end the confrontation... that's exactly the nonsense I heard recited by a liberal friend who lives in that town, just after the incident.  

JCM 10/19/2020 9:05:10 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 41:

Those folks need to take a tactical shooting class.

Occasional Reader 10/19/2020 9:10:18 AM

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In #42 JCM said: Those folks need to take a tactical shooting class.

... or read/watch/hear anything, anything at all, on armed self-defense.  No qualified firearms instructor in the world is going to teach "shoot for the legs!" in that kind of circumstance. 

vxbush 10/19/2020 9:18:51 AM

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In #42 JCM said: Those folks need to take a tactical shooting thinking class.

Fixed. 

buzzsawmonkey 10/19/2020 9:19:17 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 39:

Hated that movie, but then I've disliked everything of Spike Lee's I've seen.  And I went in prepared to like them, given the praise that had been showered on them---but I found them stupid, ill-written, ill-shot and -timed, and, of course, racist and antisemitic.

buzzsawmonkey 10/19/2020 9:21:39 AM

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Reply to vxbush in 34: Reply to Occasional Reader in 35:

I remain enough of an innocent/idealist to imagine that there do exist, somewhere, some people expressing "community concerns" who genuinely want to do something beneficial for others. 

Occasional Reader 10/19/2020 9:22:33 AM

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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 45:

The only Spike Lee movie I can speak well of at this point is Inside Man.  And, not coincidentally, it's probably his least racially-oriented movie. 

Occasional Reader 10/19/2020 9:24:15 AM

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Analysis; True.

buzzsawmonkey 10/19/2020 10:12:06 AM

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In #47 Occasional Reader said: The only Spike Lee movie I can speak well of at this point is Inside Man.  And, not coincidentally, it's probably his least racially-oriented movie. 

Never even heard of that one.  I saw Do the Right Thing because everyone was going nuts over it, and thought it grossly overrated.  I then tried his initial film, She's Gotta Have It, because it was what first put him on the scene.  It was terrible.  Mo' Better Blues was blatantly antisemitic, and when Lee was rightly called on that, he wrote a meaching op-ed in the New York Times about how the characters he'd negatively portrayed "just happened to be Jewish."  "Happened to be?" He wrote the damned film; he didn't have control over what he wrote?  What nonsense. 

By that time, I was done with him---but, some time later I had the opportunity to see Crooklyn, and said, what the hell, one last look.  It was the most stupid, empty, ill-focused, meandering film I'd seen in some time, and so I've never bothered to see any of his other films.

I should add that I did get a racist hate stare from Lee in person many years ago; I was walking from what is now called "Clinton Hill," near Pratt Institute, to the subway on Flatbush, and the walk took me past Spike Lee's swag store opposite Fort Greene Park.  A short black guy who I recognized as Spike Lee emerged from the store, walked by me, and fixed me with a glare of malevolent loathing that was palpable in its intensity. We did not exchange words.  I have regarded Lee as a nasty, hate-filled person ever since.

JCM 10/19/2020 10:19:15 AM

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Reply to vxbush in 44:

Really true. It is a mind set.

Occasional Reader 10/19/2020 11:22:38 AM

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In #49 buzzsawmonkey said: Never even heard of that one.

Inside Man is a fairly complex crime caper, and in a sense it's also a movie about New York City, particular the city's politics; as I mentioned, it has little to none of the race-arson stuff that Lee usually does.  Should you decide to see one of his films again (for whatever reason), you might actually like it.

lucius septimius 10/19/2020 12:43:27 PM

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vxbush 10/19/2020 2:20:16 PM

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In #52 lucius septimius said: More school bullshit.  Short story:  nobody's doing what they are legally obligated to.  COVID is the cover-all excuse for it.  I'm trying to make people understand that, yes, I'm sorry, Covid screwed things up.  But a legal settlement is a legal settlement:  you signed the paper and your obligations do not end because someone might get the sniffles.

I have a feeling (no evidence, mind you) that COVID is being used as an excuse for a lot of things so folks don't have to do stuff. 

buzzsawmonkey 10/19/2020 2:27:39 PM

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In #53 vxbush said: I have a feeling (no evidence, mind you) that COVID is being used as an excuse for a lot of things so folks don't have to do stuff. 

Of course.

doppelganglander 10/19/2020 3:23:40 PM

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Reply to lucius septimius in 52:

You would think a charter school would do better, but apparently you'd be wrong. 

lucius septimius 10/19/2020 3:26:25 PM

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Reply to doppelganglander in 55:

The county is using Covid as an excuse to kill the charter schools.  They've had their budget slashed by 30% because Covid.  They have a new principal, which is also part of the problem -- the previous one had founded the school; I fear the new one is a typical county time-serving venal negro (the entire county government is comprised of venal negroes, I should add),

Kosh's Shadow 10/19/2020 3:26:26 PM

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Re Ice Cube and his program and various other things related to that.

Ice Cube, like many rappers, especially black rappers, often tweets Judenhass from Farrakhan and other sources.

He does, however, work with Trump on some matters. The only reason the MSM doesn't use this as evidence against Trump is because they don't recognize Farrakhan's Judenhass, and besides, more Democrats support him and more strongly than Trump.

(This from Tabletmag, which is one of the few sources to really look at Judenhass on both sides of the aisle)

So this explains why he'd want a black-owned bank - to keep their money out of jooooish hands.

JCM 10/19/2020 3:33:09 PM

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M 7.5 - 91 km SE of Sand Point, Alaska

With aftershocks.

TSUAK1

BULLETIN
Public Tsunami Message Number 3
NWS National Tsunami Warning Center Palmer AK
206 PM AKDT Mon Oct 19 2020

UPDATES
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 * There are no updates in this message


...THE TSUNAMI WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT...


Tsunami Warning in Effect for;

 * SOUTH ALASKA AND THE ALASKA PENINSULA, Pacific coasts from
   Kennedy Entrance, Alaska (40 miles SW of Homer) to Unimak
   Pass, Alaska (80 miles NE of Unalaska)


For other US and Canadian Pacific coasts in North America, 
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@PBJ3 10/19/2020 3:41:30 PM

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Reply to JCM in 58:

Praying there were no deaths.  7.5 is really big.

turn 10/19/2020 3:47:08 PM

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Reply to JCM in 58:

Welcome to 2020, expect the worst.

turn 10/19/2020 3:56:42 PM

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Reply to JCM in 58:

~snip~

The Denali Fault is a major intracontinental dextral (right lateral) strike-slip fault in western North America, extending from northwestern British Columbia, Canada to the central region of the U.S. state of Alaska.^[1]

LINK

lucius septimius 10/19/2020 4:01:10 PM

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Reply to turn in 61:

At least it's not what happened in 1964.

JCM 10/19/2020 4:02:58 PM

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Reply to lucius septimius in 62:

All we need is a SMOD to have the triple play!

Kosh's Shadow 10/19/2020 4:07:15 PM

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In #63 JCM said: All we need is a SMOD to have the triple play!

2 asteroids today

Another the day before election day

turn 10/19/2020 4:08:13 PM

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Reply to lucius septimius in 62:

I was 8 years old when that quake hit and I can still remember watching the damage that was done on black and white TV. The devastation left quite an impression on me.

turn 10/19/2020 4:10:27 PM

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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 64:

They're zeroing in!

lucius septimius 10/19/2020 4:11:05 PM

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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 64:

I don't know about you, but I'm ready for an extinction level event.

turn 10/19/2020 4:18:43 PM

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In #67 lucius septimius said: I don't know about you, but I'm ready for an extinction level event.

Me too, as long as it targets only progressives and leaves the rest of us sane people as survivors.

JCM 10/19/2020 4:35:14 PM

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Reply to turn in 68:

Who relies on gov't?

Who relies on personal survival skills?

Kosh's Shadow 10/19/2020 4:35:52 PM

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As for a "food desert", a town near me had a very small supermarket, which closed after the local chain sold out to a national one.

A couple of years later it reopened - this time, with a (scarce) beer and wine license. Not the same owner, but they are somehow affiliated (same house brands),

I think the beer and wine license made the difference. It is next door to a cheap motel that advertises High-Speed Internet that I am sure is mostly used for porn. You can tell the people who stay there and come to the supermarket. This is not a classy place.

Kosh's Shadow 10/19/2020 4:37:31 PM

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In #68 turn said: Me too, as long as it targets only progressives and leaves the rest of us sane people as survivors.

Tell them the asteroid is a mother ship and if they wear Nikes and running clothes the aliens will take them up, after the drink this ....

turn 10/19/2020 4:41:06 PM

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In #69 JCM said: Who relies on gov't? Who relies on personal survival skills?

Liberals and conservatives, in that order, making we conservatives better able to cope with a governmental collapse. Sort of a survival of the fittest :.)

Kosh's Shadow 10/19/2020 4:41:27 PM

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In #69 JCM said: Who relies on gov't? Who relies on personal survival skills?

If anyone ever watched Dual Survival on Discovery, one person was Cody Lundin. He was a sort of hippie, but did know a lot about native survival skills. That's his specialty.

He has two books out on survival skills. In one, he quotes Reagan "The scariest thing in the world is someone who says 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help'"

He's not a real hippie, but he just looks like one.

And he quit the show when the producer insisted he do something dangerous (not so much for him, but for viewers if they tried it). He wants to teach, not be a star. 

turn 10/19/2020 4:45:41 PM

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In #71 Kosh's Shadow said: after the drink this ....

Did you drop the link to purple KoolAid?

Kosh's Shadow 10/19/2020 4:47:59 PM

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Reply to turn in 74:

Didn't think that cult used purple kooll-aid, but I'm not sure.

turn 10/19/2020 5:00:23 PM

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Our Governor Newsome, now the arbiter of “science” ...

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — California won't allow any distribution of new coronavirus vaccines in the nation’s most populous state until it is reviewed by the state’s own panel of experts, Gov. Gavin Newsom said Monday.

Vaccinations for the pandemic “will move at the speed of trust,” said Newsom, a Democrat, and the state wants its own independent review no matter who wins the presidential election next month.

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