In #1 Kosh's Shadow said: So freeing Blacks unjustly imprisoned is a good idea, right?
Unless it is done by jooooos
Sheesh.
My thanks to whomever posted the Not the Bee link about folks' woke breaking point. Fascinating read. Things are getting scarier, despite more people seeing how ridiculous things are.
And good morning.
doppelganglander
3/22/2021 6:33:12 AM
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Reply to lucius septimius in 2:
I had no idea he was in that!
lucius septimius
3/22/2021 6:39:45 AM
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Reply to doppelganglander in 4:
First major role.
vxbush
3/22/2021 6:49:49 AM
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In #5 lucius septimius said: First major role.
You can see why they chose Christopher Pine to play Kirk in the new Star Trek series based on how Shatner looks there.
doppelganglander
3/22/2021 7:11:48 AM
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Reply to lucius septimius in 5:
I've never seen it. When I was young and pretentious, I read a bunch of classic literature in lieu of going to college. The Brothers Karamazov was one. I tried to pick it up again a couple of years ago and it appears my attention span has shortened drastically with age.
lucius septimius
3/22/2021 7:49:38 AM
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Reply to doppelganglander in 7:
PaladinPhil
3/22/2021 7:52:57 AM
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So pissed right now. Spent most of yesterday evening and early into the morning with my mom. She's declining rapidly. Got up today and hoped to go visit today. Nope, school called and sent home the Squire with "sniffles". They aren't letting him back until he's either tested for Covid cooties or isolates for two weeks. Next available appointment is tomorrow at around 11. Until then both the wife and I have to ISOLATE!
My mom has probably days and now I can't even visit her. *spit*.
JCM
3/22/2021 7:56:44 AM
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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 1:
Schultzbergers have long history of self hatred.
JCM
3/22/2021 7:58:10 AM
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Reply to lucius septimius in 8:
Dr. Zhivago, multiple Russian names per character.
vxbush
3/22/2021 8:27:54 AM
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In #9 PaladinPhil said: My mom has probably days and now I can't even visit her. *spit*.
I am so sorry, Phil. This is awful.
JCM
3/22/2021 8:44:01 AM
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Reply to PaladinPhil in 9:
The "experts" don't want you mom to get covid and die.
Their lack of self awareness and compassion is stunning.
Occasional Reader
3/22/2021 8:51:20 AM
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Reply to PaladinPhil in 9:
Very sorry that you’re having to go through with all of it.
Occasional Reader
3/22/2021 8:52:15 AM
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Monday the Rabbi Took Off
I remember those books! A crime-solving rabbi.
JCM
3/22/2021 8:54:16 AM
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Reply to Occasional Reader in 15:
This week is books!
Alice in Dairyland
3/22/2021 9:01:59 AM
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Reply to PaladinPhil in 9: I am so sorry to hear this. I can't even begin to imagine the pain and frustration you are going through. Like JCM said, what are they trying to protect her from? The best thing would be is if you could be by her side through all of this. I will keep you all in my prayers.
JCM
3/22/2021 9:05:51 AM
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Reply to Alice in Dairyland in 17:
We my mom was passing from cancer we had to doc shop to find a doc to give her sufficient pain meds.
I lost it at one doc who said, "well we don't want her to get addicted". I asked him which cereal box he found his medical license in.
buzzsawmonkey
3/22/2021 9:07:24 AM
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Well, I made it through my second session of Re-Education Camp.
What a bunch of nonsense.
vxbush
3/22/2021 9:08:47 AM
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In #18 JCM said: I lost it at one doc who said, "well we don't want her to get addicted". I asked him which cereal box he found his medical license in.
Yes, I've been tempted to ask that question a time or two. Most docs seriously don't know what to do with someone who actually understands the issues and can explain why they are wrong.
PaladinPhil
3/22/2021 9:09:43 AM
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Reply to JCM in 13:
Reply to Alice in Dairyland in 17:
Not the hospital directly, just the school with two double sided pages of instructions! So now in order to get back to work (took an emergency day today because of being in the hospital to the wee hours), I have to get tested, the wife has to get tested, and the Squire is getting tested. If I am lucky it will come back negative before it's too late. Not looking like it will be in time though. It will be a miracle if my mom lasts the week.
JCM
3/22/2021 9:12:01 AM
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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 19:
So you insist there are four fingers?
buzzsawmonkey
3/22/2021 9:29:07 AM
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In #22 JCM said: So you insist there are four fingers?
I damn near had to drink four fingers to get through the two hours.
lucius septimius
3/22/2021 9:29:27 AM
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Reply to PaladinPhil in 9:
Very sorry to hear that.
JCM
3/22/2021 9:32:10 AM
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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 23:
So far at this gig every class is online. Their might be a few questions you have to answer to see if you are awake or something, but most of them can be pencil whipped.
vxbush
3/22/2021 9:38:35 AM
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Reply to PaladinPhil in 21:
The fact that every kid in Elementary school is going to have the sniffles periodically makes this beyond ridiculous.
buzzsawmonkey
3/22/2021 9:45:55 AM
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Reply to JCM in 25:
Basically, we have to answer in the chat bar what we should do in various scenarios. It comes down to reporting everything to the campus Thought Police.
I've got a questionnaire that arrived last night via email. I'm holding off on answering it, since my initial reaction to the essay-question of "what can be done to improve this course" was "tow the entire program out to sea and burn it to the waterline," which I don't think would be very well received.
In the first class they were talking about what was, or wasn't, or might be, "appropriate" to say to a student who was dressing provocatively, or behaving provocatively (answer: nothing), and then what one does when said student comes crying to you because of what their provocative behavior provoked---and what the consequences would be if one was not properly sympathetic. I said that it seemed to me the school was trying to have it both ways; first, getting rid of basic deportment standards and the ability to even encourage them, let alone enforce them, and then getting upset when the standards they'd undermined were not followed. That didn't go well.
I really don't need to be instructed in this kind of drivel by a fatuous, fatfaced gayboy who is likely less than half my age, and whose flow of empty jargon is basically designed to negate and dismiss my life experience, even as he vapors on about how "everyone must be heard" and "all experiences are valid."
There was a question today about what one should do if someone complained that a certain class was "racist" because there was not enough racial parity in the course materials. I wanted to ask whether this meant that the early-American history class would properly emphasize the presence of both white slaves and black slaveowners in colonial America, but I thought it best to let that go.
JCM
3/22/2021 9:58:54 AM
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I just got a nasty email form an engineer.
He asked for some stuff, and what he got was not what he wanted.
Except what he got was exactly what he asked for.
So I emailed him back. Copied his boss and my boss.
With the email chain between us.
Didn't even have to be nasty.
Alice in Dairyland
3/22/2021 10:24:16 AM
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I read this weekend that they are now requiring med students to identify their preferred pronoun and ask the patient their preference. Failing to know this requirement would reduce their grade by one letter. I thought if my doctor asked me that, I would respond by telling him/her if they couldn't figure that out, how in the hell were they ever going to figure out what was medically wrong with me! A pap smear is uncomfortable enough, I certainly don't want the prostate exam. What is the world coming to? We are truly doomed.
doppelganglander
3/22/2021 10:27:38 AM
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Reply to PaladinPhil in 9: I'm sorry, Phil. It seems the people who are supposed to help just make matters worse. Praying for you all.
Occasional Reader
3/22/2021 10:47:50 AM
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This. This is of a piece with what I was describing yesterday, the mask fetishists running around my deep blue neighborhood.
Russian names aren't difficult if you know the rules. The middle name is a patronymic, derived from the father's given name. Patronymics and surnames have gender markers (e.g. -ov, -ova). First names have common nicknames, such as Ivan/Vanya or Maria/Masha. Now pronouncing them, that's another story. My translation of War and Peace has a list of characters with all their nicknames, plus accent marks to help with pronunciation.
Linus's technique also works.
JCM
3/22/2021 11:06:40 AM
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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 27:
They know they have most people by the short hairs. People need their jobs, and it's hard to choose that particular hill to die on.
Part of the problem IMAO is the left is good at distributed conspiracy. The right is awful at it.
If everyone who thought this classes were bullshit, as so as the class was over filed hostile workplace complaints. Or during the class gang up on the fatfaced gayboy with logic and made him cry. The shit would end.
buzzsawmonkey
3/22/2021 11:18:10 AM
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In #33 JCM said: They know they have most people by the short hairs. People need their jobs, and it's hard to choose that particular hill to die on.
Especially since most of us are adjuncts, which mean we can be terminated at will---and that with an "insufficiently woke/diverse" checkmark attached to us, the likelihood of finding a similar berth somewhere is...slim.
@PBJ3
3/22/2021 1:20:56 PM
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Reply to PaladinPhil in 9:
I'm so sorry to hear that (((((Phil))))). My thoughts and prayers will be with you all.
buzzsawmonkey
3/22/2021 1:39:56 PM
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According to WZ, 42% of Americans have gotten fatter because of lockdowns:
Once people went to the gym to work on their abs Now they sit around just building up flab So big that they hardly can squeeze through the door 'Cause of their big stomachs and their posteriors
You see six-ton teens---what do you bet They sit around all day and don't work up a sweat People say that the lockdowns are what is to blame They do nothin' all day but play video games
---"Six-Ton Teens" by Fatassy Ernie Ford
Kosh's Shadow
3/22/2021 1:55:43 PM
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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 36:
I was born one morning don't care how I look I picked up my phone and opened Facebook
(Have to work on other lines later)
buzzsawmonkey
3/22/2021 2:01:15 PM
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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 37:
Try:
I woke up one mornin', didn't care how I looked
Picked up my cell phone and opened Facebook
Not till three hours later did I remember my task
Had to take out the dog, while wearin' a mask...
JCM
3/22/2021 2:04:07 PM
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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 34:
My skill set is narrow and very much in demand.
I get on average 3 serious recruiting contacts a week.
I could land on my feet... most likely.
JCM
3/22/2021 2:09:06 PM
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Reply to doppelganglander in 32:
My Russian language class in college drove me nuts.
There were past, present, and future tenses, and genders.
Each changed word endings, with many exceptions. Which as my instructor explained is why native Russian speakers slur the word endings, depending on context for listeners to know what was what. He was former DLI Russian instructor, spent 20 years listening to the Russians.
buzzsawmonkey
3/22/2021 2:14:57 PM
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In #39 JCM said: I could land on my feet... most likely.
That you have to add the "most likely" qualifier shows how narrow the window is. I offer my students a unique combination of things which they desperately need---and which some administrators recognize they need---but that would likely avail me nothing if I were to speak my mind about Wokie Re-Education Camp.
Lest people think this is a new phenomenon, however, I'd mention that the political cartoonist Bill Mauldin, in his immediately-post-WWII book "Back Home," has cartoon in which two men are sitting on a park bench. One is obviously a bum, the other obviously a plutocrat, and the bum is saying to the plutocrat, "Let's talk honest about politics, mister. You can afford it, an' I got nothin' to lose by it."
Kosh's Shadow
3/22/2021 2:33:48 PM
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In #40 JCM said: There were past, present, and future tenses, and genders.
Each changed word endings, with many exceptions.
Try learning Latin. Of course, we have no way of knowing whether native Latin speakers slurred endings, or if they were very careful lest a centurion come and cut their balls off.
JCM
3/22/2021 2:40:11 PM
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Kosh's Shadow
3/22/2021 2:46:37 PM
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Reply to JCM in 43:
How many comments are there to that saying all their Latin teachers were like that? And not a single one saying their Latin teacher was a nice guy.
JCM
3/22/2021 3:09:44 PM
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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 44:
I was lamenting to my boys how they are missing out by not having Latin in High School.
If the civil war is coming, it needs to happen soon while there is still a chance the rank and file won't join with the Communists.
doppelganglander
3/22/2021 3:25:26 PM
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Reply to JCM in 40:
My ex and my son both studied Russian at DLI, and my daughter-in-law is a Ukrainian Russian speaker. So many case endings!
lucius septimius
3/22/2021 3:28:23 PM
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In #47 doppelganglander said: So many case endings!
The case endings are not nearly such a problem as verbs of motion.
doppelganglander
3/22/2021 3:30:47 PM
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Reply to JCM in 45:
You're absolutely right. Youngest daughter took Latin, which definitely boosted her ACT and SAT verbal scores. It was weird, though - instead of the traditional method of translating Caesar and all that, it was taught as if the students were visiting Rome. Lots of vocabulary about school and home life, with history on the side. She made Latin Honor Society, but I'm not sure she learned much beyond recognizing Latin roots in English.
buzzsawmonkey
3/22/2021 3:34:18 PM
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Reply to JCM in 45:
Reply to doppelganglander in 49:
My younger nephew "took Latin" in high school. They allegedly had the class reading Petronius' "Satyricon."
lucius septimius
3/22/2021 3:39:18 PM
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In #50 buzzsawmonkey said: They allegedly had the class reading Petronius' "Satyricon."
Come fairies, come buggers, come eunuchs exotic
Come running, come running ye anal erotic.
With soft little hands and flexible buns
Come ye, Castrati, unnatural ones.
doppelganglander
3/22/2021 3:43:03 PM
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Reply to lucius septimius in 46:
Considering the shoddy, woke education most of them have endured, it would take very little to convince them that shooting their fellow citizens is not only justified, but heroic.
Back in my Navy wife days, I don't recall noticing any racial animosity or tension. Then again, I don't think the ex served with many black sailors after boot camp. The CTI rating is part of intelligence and everyone had to pass a very difficult aptitude test, especially to get into languages that do not use the Roman alphabet. But merit is racist so maybe the standards have changed.
doppelganglander
3/22/2021 3:48:06 PM
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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 50:
From Wikipedia:
An orgy ensues and the sequence ends with Encolpius and Quartilla exchanging kisses while they spy through a keyhole at Giton having sex with a seven-year-old virgin girl; and finally sleeping together.
Jesus Christ. In high school?! Excuse me while I throw up.
buzzsawmonkey
3/22/2021 3:51:25 PM
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Reply to lucius septimius in 51:
I assume that's a quote from the "Satyricon." It would not surprise me.
I found it interesting, in a grotesque sort of way, that this was what his school used to "teach Latin." I've read enough 19th-century British stuff to know that you're supposed to start with Caesar and go on to Virgil and the like.
Kosh's Shadow
3/22/2021 3:51:44 PM
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In #45 JCM said: I was lamenting to my boys how they are missing out by not having Latin in High School.
They think the old man is slightly nuts.
I hated every minute, 7-11th grade - but later, found Latin books.
One place I worked wrote software to lock down computers while students were taking tests. One customer was the Georgia Virtual High School - I tested it (there was a lot of customization needed, sometimes) on a Latin test - and passed, despite not having taken Latin in over 30 years.
(Small company. Even the CEO took support calls. One mother was trying to help her son, but it would have been better to talk to him. She didn't know how to send an attachment in Hotmail. I passed the call to someone who used Hotmail, and he said he asked if she had any windows open. Her answer, "No, I have the AC on")
Kosh's Shadow
3/22/2021 3:52:33 PM
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In #46 lucius septimius said: I have obtained a copy of all the materials regarding the sudden new threat of “Extremism” used for training in the United States military. Throughout the services, service members have been shocked at the Biden blitz to root out ideas and people who stand in the way of the administration’s transformative agenda.
Comrade, obey the political officer first, or gulag.
JCM
3/22/2021 3:55:20 PM
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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 55:
I never really did anything with my latin. But understand the latin roots in our languages and especially the science is big boost. So many words a person doesn't have to look up.
Kosh's Shadow
3/22/2021 4:00:08 PM
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In #57 JCM said: I never really did anything with my latin. But understand the latin roots in our languages and especially the science is big boost. So many words a person doesn't have to look up.
I never did, either - but it helped a lot to get a 99th percentile on the verbal GRE (better than I did in math, and that was quite good)
Kosh's Shadow
3/22/2021 4:06:23 PM
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Had to order a new phone. For a few weeks now, mine would have parts of the display flicker in certain conditions (never did that before, and the app hasn't been updated in a while). Now when getting to unlock it, the formerly black background has shade of blue moving around, and not in a way that looks like it is supposed to. Better replace it before it craps out.
Getting a Google Pixel 5. Not exactly rugged, but better than Samsung or LG, and made in Taiwan, NOT China, unlike my current Motorola, whose cell phone division is owned by China, iirc.
doppelganglander
3/22/2021 4:19:18 PM
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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 54:
It's from a summary of the Satyricon. It seems like a misguided attempt to make Latin interesting for horny young teens. I would not be surprised if the teacher was a little too interested in those young teens as well. Chances are the parents never knew because they don't know Latin themselves. And here I thought it was a scandal when my HS English class read The Wife Of Bath's Tale.
Kosh's Shadow
3/22/2021 4:23:18 PM
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In #60 doppelganglander said: The Wife Of Bath's Tale.
I read the Wife of Bath's Tale, back in the day, but don't remember it.
I do remember how scandalized my sophomore high-school English teacher was when I mentioned in passing that Hamlet raped Ophelia, and she killed herself because she was pregnant with his child. It's obvious in the text, but they don't quite teach it that way.
Kosh's Shadow
3/22/2021 4:38:55 PM
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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 62:
At least my high school teacher DID explain what "get thee to a nunnery" meant. A brothel, not a convent.
Kosh's Shadow
3/22/2021 4:40:08 PM
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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 62:
I'm waiting for the Woke Hamlet, in which his famous soliloquy is whether he is male or female or indeterminate.
buzzsawmonkey
3/22/2021 5:00:47 PM
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In #63 Kosh's Shadow said: At least my high school teacher DID explain what "get thee to a nunnery" meant. A brothel, not a convent.
Well, yes and no. Nunneries were the traditional "homes for unwed mothers" in those days, and "nunnery" was also a slang term for a brothel. Of course, Hamlet also calls Ophelia's father Polonius a "fishmonger," which was Elizabethan slang for a pimp.
The real key, however, is when Ophelia shows up as a madwoman. You have to remember that the only people in Shakespeare's plays that actually speak truth are the mad or the comic menials. Ophelia, when mad, sings a song: "Tomorrow is St. Valentine's Day, all in the morning betime/And I a maid at thy window/To be thy valentine./Then up he rose, and donned his clothes, and op'd the chamber door/Let in the maid, that out a maid/Never departed more."
In other words, she is describing her deflowering by Hamlet, earlier referred to in the "Oh, my lord, I am so affrighted!" scene. She then commits suicide by dropping from the branch of a willow tree (a symbol both of virginity, and of mourning for the loss of it, depending on the context) into the water, where she drowns---and drowning was the traditional indication in those days of the girl who'd been seduced and abandoned.