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Kosh's Shadow
6/16/2021 5:10:05 AM
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Reichstag fire? Tucker Carlson: Government agents may have helped organize the Jan. 6 Capitol riot We know that because, without fail, the government has thrown the book at most of the people who were in the Capitol on January 6. There was a nationwide dragnet to find them. Many of them are still in solitary confinement tonight. But, strangely, some people who participated in the riot haven't been charged. Look at the documents. The government calls these people "unindicted co-conspirators." What does that mean? It means that in potentially every case, they're FBI operatives. For example, one of those "unindicted co-conspirators" is someone the government identifies only as "Person Two." According to those documents, "Person Two" stayed in the same hotel room as an "insurrectionist" named Thomas Caldwell, who's alleged to be a member of the group called the Oath Keepers. "Person Two" also "stormed the barricades" at the Capitol on January 6, alongside Thomas Caldwell. The government's indictments further indicate that Caldwell -- who by the way is a 65-year-old man -- was led to believe there would be a "quick reaction force" also participating in January 6. That quick reaction force, Caldwell was told, would be led by someone called "Person Three" -- who had a hotel room and an accomplice. But wait. Here’s the interesting thing. "Person Two" and "Person Three" were organizers of the riot. The government knows who they are, but the government has not charged them. Why is that? You know why. They were almost certainly working for the FBI. So FBI operatives were organizing the attack on the Capitol on January 6, according to government documents. And those two are not alone. I suggest taking this with a small grain of salt, but it isn't out of the question.
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vxbush
6/16/2021 5:25:09 AM
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In #2 Kosh's Shadow said: I suggest taking this with a small grain of salt, but it isn't out of the question. Yeah, he takes a bit of a leap of logic to go from "this person helped organize with a person that was arrested" to "because they are listed unindicted, that means they MUST be FBI." I think he needs to elucidate a step or two between those two statements. Thinking back to unindicted co-conspirators of the past, remember the muslim group who was working with Hamas in the US that was noted to be conspirators but were never charged? I can't recall the name of the group, darn it, but "unindicted" means they either don't have enough proof to attempt conviction (and that seems unlikely, as we saw them create proof out of thin air with the Trump-Russia collusion) or they are choosing not to indict--which could have any number of motivations.
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vxbush
6/16/2021 6:05:42 AM
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Reply to vxbush in 5: Ah, no, she notes that Carlson got there first. My mistake.
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buzzsawmonkey
6/16/2021 6:26:14 AM
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In #1 Kosh's Shadow said: Ethanol takes more energy than it produces A feature, not a bug.
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Occasional Reader
6/16/2021 7:18:01 AM
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In #1 Kosh's Shadow said: Ethanol takes more energy than it produces
See, also, the Greenies who believe that hydrogen is the miracle, clean "fuel" of the future. Say, where are all those free-hydrogen deposits located, again?
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Occasional Reader
6/16/2021 7:22:23 AM
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Buzz, I've not been following NYC politics; I'm curious as to your take on this and similar stories.
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lucius septimius
6/16/2021 7:39:03 AM
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Reply to Occasional Reader in 9: Tibanna Gas Mines.
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Kosh's Shadow
6/16/2021 7:43:25 AM
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In #9 Occasional Reader said: Say, where are all those free-hydrogen deposits located, again? There's plenty of free hydrogen on the Sun. They can go and get it there/////// The original idea was that hydrogen would be produced from sea water by electricity. A 2003 Academy of Engineering (might not have the date and name quite right) found that the only way that would work is to build nuclear power plants to produce the electricity. Solar power would require significant improvement in solar power efficiency and electrolysis efficiency. Hydrogen now is produced from natural gas. Also, it burns clear so it is easy to walk into a hydrogen fire accidentally.
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vxbush
6/16/2021 7:51:33 AM
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In #12 Kosh's Shadow said: The original idea was that hydrogen would be produced from sea water by electricity. A 2003 Academy of Engineering (might not have the date and name quite right) found that the only way that would work is to build nuclear power plants to produce the electricity. Solar power would require significant improvement in solar power efficiency and electrolysis efficiency. Somewhere in the last two weeks I read a story about a new type of desalination plan that would product cheap hydrogen as a byproduct, but I don't recall where I read the article.
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buzzsawmonkey
6/16/2021 8:16:58 AM
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In #10 Occasional Reader said: Buzz, I've not been following NYC politics; I'm curious as to your take on this and similar stories. The idea of Maya Wiley as mayor is horrifying---she's got the potential to be as bad as Larry Lightfoot in Chicago. Unfortunately, she's been rising in the polls; one wonders whether she has the backing of OFA, as deBlasio did. Eric Adams, current Brooklyn borough president, former police officer, and pretty much the sole voice against weakening the police amidst the Oklahoma land rush that is the Democratic primary (there are something like twelve hopefuls competing for the nomination) is still leading, but with this ranked-voting idiocy who is going to actually win is anyone's guess. Jumaane Williams is running for re-election as "Public Advocate," the do-nothing springboard position from which deBlasio became mayor. He's a racist dunderhead, and his two competitors are not much different. We've got no dearth of people running for office---in fact, we have an excess---but there's certainly a dearth of talent. And, as far as I'm concerned, "ranked voting" is just an invitation to new forms of fraud.
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Occasional Reader
6/16/2021 8:39:05 AM
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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 16:
Not Tucker's best work, but he does get the basic point across. I liked the interviewee's line about Wiley being the choice for NYC voters "if you like DeBlasio's incompetence, but don't think he's quite Marxist enough." Also, i find it hard to believe that Herr Wilhelm really was strolling around Park Slope with no security. Perhaps no evident, visible security, yes.
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buzzsawmonkey
6/16/2021 8:40:46 AM
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In #17 Occasional Reader said: Also, i find it hard to believe that Herr Wilhelm really was strolling around Park Slope with no security. Perhaps no evident, visible security, yes.
When I saw deBlasio strolling down the avenue to get to his workout at the Park Slope YMCA, he was surrounded by police---and there were police outside the Y, too.
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JCM
6/16/2021 8:49:55 AM
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Reply to Occasional Reader in 17: I'll bet they swept the park before deCommio showed up and had a perimeter set up. Optics....
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doppelganglander
6/16/2021 9:45:29 AM
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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 2: This is the most plausible explanation I've come across. There's already been speculation about Antifa going undercover to stir the shit. It's not a stretch to consider that Antifa did so under the direction of the FBI. It would also explain why the FBI and other agencies have done nothing to stop the nightly riots in Portland, Seattle, and elsewhere.
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Occasional Reader
6/16/2021 9:46:23 AM
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In #19 JCM said: I'll bet they swept the park (Park Slope is a neighborhood in Brooklyn, not a park.)
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JCM
6/16/2021 10:36:41 AM
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Gee I wonder why the ChiComs are getting frisky. China's government issues warning after sending 28 planes over Taiwan "We will never tolerate attempts to seek independence or wanton intervention in the Taiwan issue by foreign forces, so we need to make a strong response to these acts of collusion," said Chinese government spokesperson Ma Xiaoguang, according to Reuters. US media versions leave this tidbit out...
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Occasional Reader
6/16/2021 10:46:06 AM
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Reply to JCM in 23:
don't worry, Taiwan, our fabulous LGBTQ+ Navy is right behind you.
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vxbush
6/16/2021 11:04:12 AM
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In #24 Occasional Reader said: don't worry, Taiwan, our fabulous LGBTQ+ Navy is right behind you. *snort*
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Kosh's Shadow
6/16/2021 11:14:05 AM
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In #24 Occasional Reader said: don't worry, Taiwan, our fabulous LGBTQ+ Navy is right behind you. Hello, sailor!
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Kosh's Shadow
6/16/2021 11:38:02 AM
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In #24 Occasional Reader said: our fabulous LGBTQ+ Navy is right behind you. They've found the solution for not having enough ships. They'll buy rowboats that identify as aircraft carriers.
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Occasional Reader
6/16/2021 1:09:33 PM
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A quick aside in the Frontier (don't worry, for once it's nothing drastic).
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Occasional Reader
6/16/2021 2:32:13 PM
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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 29:
+++ Only when they say that women "aren't hairy", well, that's an over-generalization, unfortunately.
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JCM
6/16/2021 3:09:13 PM
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Reply to Occasional Reader in 30: It's the dwarves that go swimming with little hairy women!
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Kosh's Shadow
6/16/2021 3:21:26 PM
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In #31 JCM said: It's the dwarves that go swimming with little hairy women! Jukebox
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buzzsawmonkey
6/16/2021 3:30:26 PM
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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 32: +++++++
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