lucius septimius 8/6/2021 5:08:04 AM

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Kosh's Shadow 8/6/2021 5:42:55 AM

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In #1 lucius septimius said: Meanwhile the first thing I see crossing the state line are billboards advertising dope stores. 

"If you live here, you need to be stoned"

Occasional Reader 8/6/2021 6:43:57 AM

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Occasional Reader 8/6/2021 6:46:22 AM

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In #1 lucius septimius said: Arrived in Illinois, this stinking pisspot of a failed state, just in time for Gauleiter Pritzger to impose yet another pointless lockdown.  Meanwhile the first thing I see crossing the state line are billboards advertising dope stores.  This is utterly insane.

On the plus side, the city of Chicago is full of gun-free zones; so it's probably really safe. 

vxbush 8/6/2021 6:55:20 AM

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In #1 lucius septimius said: Arrived in Illinois, this stinking pisspot of a failed state, just in time for Gauleiter Pritzger to impose yet another pointless lockdown.  Meanwhile the first thing I see crossing the state line are billboards advertising dope stores.  This is utterly insane.

Is this a statewide lockdown? If so, I'm not aware of that. But then I've got so much going on I'm going crazy. 

lucius septimius 8/6/2021 7:06:48 AM

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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 2:

If I had to live here, I'd be stoned all the time fur shure.

lucius septimius 8/6/2021 7:07:55 AM

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Reply to vxbush in 5:

Nothing statewide yes, though there are rumblings.  Up here various individual places (such as the facility mom is in right now) are planning partial lockdowns starting next week.  Betcha that this will culminate with not reopening schools.

vxbush 8/6/2021 7:08:35 AM

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In #6 lucius septimius said: If I had to live here, I'd be stoned all the time fur shure.

There are a bunch of us who really, REALLY don't want to live here. 

Kosh's Shadow 8/6/2021 7:15:49 AM

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In #3 Occasional Reader said: The Aaron's Pace Museum. 

There are exhibits there that show objects that flew on a pillar of fire.

JCM 8/6/2021 7:28:11 AM

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Reply to lucius septimius in 1:

In pot shops are essential and can stay open, gun shops are not essential.

buzzsawmonkey 8/6/2021 7:30:25 AM

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In #1 lucius septimius said: Meanwhile the first thing I see crossing the state line are billboards advertising dope stores. 

The whole state's going to pot!

Occasional Reader 8/6/2021 8:11:59 AM

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In #9 Kosh's Shadow said: There are exhibits there that show objects that flew on a pillar of fire.

But at the museum, the pilots of those craft are represented by manna-quins. 

JCM 8/6/2021 8:20:29 AM

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vxbush 8/6/2021 8:24:54 AM

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In #13 JCM said: Everett neighbors say city shut down lemonade stand as homeless camp concerns go unaddressed

I'm guessing these are the same type of people who demanded that first class had first dibs on boats on the Titanic. 

JCM 8/6/2021 8:26:36 AM

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Reply to vxbush in 14:

And no 2nd or 3rd class rabble on the boat with them.

vxbush 8/6/2021 8:39:17 AM

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In #15 JCM said: And no 2nd or 3rd class rabble on the boat with them.

Oh, of course not. 

Occasional Reader 8/6/2021 8:53:36 AM

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In #14 vxbush said: first class had first dibs on boats on the Titanic. 

I'm not sure if that's historically accurate.

IIRC, if you divide up the Titanic's passengers by class (literally), age, and sex, the greatest-percentage loss of life occurred among the men in First Class.   As I've seen commented (perhaps by Mark Steyn); the robber-baron men of the time certainly had their moral shortcomings, as a group; but "they also had a code, and they lived by it."  Women and children first. 

buzzsawmonkey 8/6/2021 9:02:42 AM

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Reply to vxbush in 14:

Reply to Occasional Reader in 17:

Just to put the Titanic disaster in perspective, the ship carried 2,223 persons; 1,517 of them died, 103 of whom were women and children. That happened in the Atlantic, off Cape Race in Newfoundland.

Eight years earlier, the steamer General Slocum, carrying about 1,400 people, mostly women and children, on an excursion sponsored by St. Mark's Lutheran Church on the Lower East Side, caught fire, collapsed and sank in the middle of New York's East River. 1,021 people died.

Think of that---2/3rds the death toll of the Titanic, in the middle of the East River.

JCM 8/6/2021 9:10:00 AM

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Audio on Dan Bongino show.

Joe Biden 350 Americans are vaccinated!

106% vaccination rate!

Kosh's Shadow 8/6/2021 9:10:26 AM

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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 18:

I understand the life preservers on the Slocum were defective, and the company knew that.

buzzsawmonkey 8/6/2021 9:13:59 AM

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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 20:

Quite possible.  However, the thing is---the East River is not that wide.  Certainly nowhere near as wide, deep and cold as the Atlantic in April.

In addition, in those days both the Manhattan and Brooklyn sides of the river were active port areas, crowded with boats and traffic. You'd think more people would have been able to swim to some kind of safety, and/or been picked up by other craft.

JCM 8/6/2021 9:22:12 AM

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The SS Eastland capsized at the pier... 220 dead.

Sultana boiler explosion at the end of the Civil War, 1200 to 1500 dead.

These get skipped over because they were German ships right at the end of the war.

Kosh's Shadow 8/6/2021 9:32:01 AM

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In #21 buzzsawmonkey said: In addition, in those days both the Manhattan and Brooklyn sides of the river were active port areas, crowded with boats and traffic. You'd think more people would have been able to swim to some kind of safety, and/or been picked up by other craft.

I believe the life preservers waterlogged quickly, dragging people down.

Occasional Reader 8/6/2021 9:49:40 AM

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In #21 buzzsawmonkey said: You'd think more people would have been able to swim to some kind of safety, and/or been picked up by other craft.

Well, keep in mind that everything was in black-and-white back then, so it was harder to spot people struggling in the water… 

doppelganglander 8/6/2021 10:26:34 AM

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Reply to JCM in 22:

vxbush 8/6/2021 10:29:48 AM

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In #24 Occasional Reader said: Well, keep in mind that everything was in black-and-white back then, so it was harder to spot people struggling in the water… 

Heh. That strip from Calvin and Hobbes had me laughing for hours. 

Occasional Reader 8/6/2021 10:33:12 AM

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In #26 vxbush said: That strip from Calvin and Hobbes had me laughing for hours. 

I don't recall the one you mean.

JCM 8/6/2021 10:48:40 AM

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Reply to doppelganglander in 25:

The problem is I have all the nearly useless trivia rattling around in my brain.

Mention maritime tragedies, and those things, and they pop the the front, then later when I'm thinking about other stuff, a little voice says, "You forgot about the Dona Paz idiot".

Occasional Reader 8/6/2021 10:58:31 AM

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JCM 8/6/2021 11:10:10 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 29:

It would have been better for several million Japanese civilians to die conventionally during the invasion!

Kosh's Shadow 8/6/2021 11:44:51 AM

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In #30 JCM said: It would have been better for several million Japanese civilians to die conventionally during the invasion!

Somehow being incinerated in a firestorm caused by incendiary bombs isn't as bad as being  nuked, to the "proggies".

But I thought it was OK because Enola was Gay//////

buzzsawmonkey 8/6/2021 11:56:16 AM

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In #29 Occasional Reader said: Hiroshima Day:  Yes, it was morally justified.  

People used to come up to my father when they found he'd worked on the Bomb, and asked if "he had any regrets."  He always said, "Yes.  I deeply regret we didn't get it done in time to drop it on Germany." 

vxbush 8/6/2021 11:58:04 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 27:

vxbush 8/6/2021 12:01:02 PM

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Kosh's Shadow 8/6/2021 12:35:36 PM

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In #34 vxbush said: Opus found Hobbes and tried to return him to Calvin

Did he use the cargo airline Flying Tigers?/

lucius septimius 8/6/2021 1:03:04 PM

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Reply to vxbush in 34:

Then there was the time that Bill Waterson drew Pearls before Swine for a week.  That was absolutely hilarious.

vxbush 8/6/2021 1:48:41 PM

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In #36 lucius septimius said: Then there was the time that Bill Waterson drew Pearls before Swine for a week.  That was absolutely hilarious.

I remember that, and yes, it was wonderful. 

Occasional Reader 8/6/2021 1:51:57 PM

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Reply to vxbush in 33:

Ah.  I dimly remember this.

Sheesh, I've gotten way, way out of the habit of reading cartoons.

vxbush 8/6/2021 1:59:26 PM

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In #38 Occasional Reader said: Sheesh, I've gotten way, way out of the habit of reading cartoons.

Well, cartoons were always there in your face with the newspaper. With the websites, it's a little harder. Some of the companies can send you daily emails, but they load them down with a lot of ads and junk and it detracts from the cartoon itself. 

buzzsawmonkey 8/6/2021 2:00:03 PM

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In #38 Occasional Reader said: Sheesh, I've gotten way, way out of the habit of reading cartoons.

Most of the ones I've seen recently are terrible; bad drawing, bad jokes, too much coarseness and vulgarity. And, in the case of the vaunted cartoons in the New Yorker, simply not funny.  Calvin and Hobbes was the first strip I'd seen in years that had really good drawing, and really good jokes---which managed to be socially critical without being overtly "leftist" or "conservative."  

I've got some old Pogo books that I delve into sometimes, and a few other collections.  I should probably try and post some of the old "Little Orphan Annie" cartoons; Harold Gray was really down "modern" education, snooty hypocritical "charity" ladies, and a lot of other things that still sound contemporary 90 years later.

Occasional Reader 8/6/2021 3:29:03 PM

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In #40 buzzsawmonkey said: I've got some old Pogo books

You and my dad would get along famously, talking about Pogo.  (I'm something of a fan, too.)

Kosh's Shadow 8/6/2021 3:33:07 PM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 41:

Today, Pogo would not be acceptable.

We'd have Progo, in the WokieFenokie swamp

JCM 8/6/2021 4:14:20 PM

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Seattle police Chief Diaz fires two officers who were in DC during Jan. 6 riot

In a post on the Seattle police blotter, Diaz said the presence of the officers during the chaos in the nation's capital as Congress was certifying the Electoral College win of Joe Biden was not consistent with values promoted by his agency. 

Notice the language... 

Presence during... 

Not that they participated... just that they were in DC on the 6th. and in the area during the protests.

Kosh's Shadow 8/6/2021 4:17:17 PM

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Reply to JCM in 43:

To combine two themes - we have met the enemy and he is us

Occasional Reader 8/6/2021 4:19:37 PM

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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 42:

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“ we have met the enemy, and he is… White, conservative, heterosexual males”

Kosh's Shadow 8/6/2021 4:41:30 PM

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In #43 JCM said: Not that they participated... just that they were in DC on the 6th. and in the area during the protests.

So what about officers who were in a city with BLM and Defund the Police cities when they had riots?

Don't need to answer

Kosh's Shadow 8/6/2021 4:44:54 PM

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When I wonder why Boston hasn't gotten so crazy, maybe because it has Black community leaders like this one (link)

Boston Rev. Eugene Rivers III, the director at the Seymour Institute for Black Church and Policy Studies, slammed "Squad" member Rep. Cori Bush’s "absurd and ridiculous" call to defund the police, especially as records show she spent tens of thousands of dollars on private security.  

"The call for the defunding police is not wrong, it's absurd and ridiculous," Rivers, a community activist who served as an advisor for the Bush and Clinton administrations to work on faith-based initiatives, argued on "Fox & Friends" on Friday. "It is absolutely an intellectual and ideological crime against Black people to talk about defunding the police."