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vxbush
11/18/2021 6:30:27 AM
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In #1 Occasional Reader said: German Covid cases hit new record high
This despite a high vaccination rate.
Hmmm. The same has happened in Israel and Scotland and is starting to appear in Germany as well.
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Occasional Reader
11/18/2021 6:38:11 AM
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Reply to vxbush in 2: These people are evil and crazy.
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Occasional Reader
11/18/2021 6:39:37 AM
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In #3 vxbush said: The same has happened in Israel and Scotland and is starting to appear in Germany as well.
I've seen a hypothesis that widespread vaccination puts evolutionary pressure on the virus to mutate, in a way that naturally-acquired immunity does not. I'm not sure what to believe, frankly.
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vxbush
11/18/2021 6:49:25 AM
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In #5 Occasional Reader said: I've seen a hypothesis that widespread vaccination puts evolutionary pressure on the virus to mutate, in a way that naturally-acquired immunity does not. I'm not sure what to believe, frankly. I've seen two other theories presented: - Natural immunity is much weirder than we understand, and that the "first bug to infect" has a lot of control over what we are immune from. This has a few different names, one of which is "original sin" theory.
- The vaccines are producing a type of acquired immunodeficiency disease, and by suppressing the immune system we will not only see a huge increase in the number of people who will get COVID after the vaccine but it will also result in an increase in cancers and other serious illnesses.
I think it's too early to understand why (there may yet be a different problem with the vaccines that hasn't been identified yet), but the numbers so far are troubling.
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Kosh's Shadow
11/18/2021 6:57:23 AM
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Helicopter back. This time with a camera "ball".
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Occasional Reader
11/18/2021 7:03:25 AM
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In #6 vxbush said: Well, that second one is certainly quite a cheerful thought, isn't it. Where did you see that theory, if you recall?
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Occasional Reader
11/18/2021 7:04:16 AM
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In #7 Kosh's Shadow said: There are reports of a doubleplusungoodthinking blogger in the area.
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Kosh's Shadow
11/18/2021 7:09:52 AM
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In #7 Kosh's Shadow said: Helicopter back. This time with a camera "ball". 
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buzzsawmonkey
11/18/2021 7:17:46 AM
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In #2 vxbush said: Courtesy of JJ Sefton at Ace: Biden is selling oil from our strategic reserve to Asia. There were a bunch of talking heads on Morning Sedition the other day---including, I think, a clip from Biden---talking about how no, we're not going to dip into the strategic reserve. We're going to pressure OPEC and sue Saudi Arabia to produce more, instead.
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JCM
11/18/2021 7:19:30 AM
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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 11:
SMILE!
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vxbush
11/18/2021 7:22:11 AM
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In #8 Occasional Reader said: Well, that second one is certainly quite a cheerful thought, isn't it. Where did you see that theory, if you recall? Which one? The acquired immunodeficiency one? Yeah, that one isn't supported by anyone I can find willing to put their name on it. At this point, it's more in the area of a conspiracy theory because it is being hyped by websites that are focusing on (possibly a lot of) anecdotal information. One example is The Daily Expose. They at least are grabbing their data from official websites, such as the UK Health Security Administration, but then they focus on statistics. They have also shared information from nurses working in hospitals that have seen a sudden uptick in all sorts of odd illnesses that have historically been rare.
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JCM
11/18/2021 7:33:30 AM
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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 15: it does! Camera is pointed off to the left. I'm that thing is like an 8k camera with serious zoom and are recording the lines and towers and hangers for detailed inspection. Save flight cost. Just record what you want and inspect later.
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buzzsawmonkey
11/18/2021 7:55:50 AM
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By the way, I hate to be cynical, but the sudden trumpet-blasting announcement that New York's DA is going to ask to have two of the men convicted for murdering Malcolm X exonerated is clearly a blatant political move to inflame the "systemic racism/police are evil and racist" crowd, just in time to get them all ginned up in the event of a verdict favorable to Rittenhouse, and as an oblique slap at those who are opposing the spread of "critical race theory." Don't get me wrong---if there is evidence to exonerate two of the men convicted, that's very nice, even if one is dead and the other has his foot on a banana peel by an open grave. I'm merely pointing out that the announcement itself, and the timing, is flagrantly political---not only because it is being used to inflame racial tensions today, but because it also operates to obscure the most important fact, that Malcolm X was murdered in a black-on-black crime because he attempted to break with the criminal black-Nazi gang known as the "Nation of Islam."
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Occasional Reader
11/18/2021 7:58:14 AM
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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 12: Backing up your point; an NPR piece bemoaning "what can Biden do?" regarding surging energy prices; with zero mention of "getting the Fed boot off the domestic production" as an option Domestic production is mentioned only in passing, regarding a proposal to ban oil US oil exports.
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buzzsawmonkey
11/18/2021 8:08:47 AM
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Reply to Occasional Reader in 18: I predict hand-wringers will be a popular gift among Democrats this Christmas.
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buzzsawmonkey
11/18/2021 8:20:05 AM
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Reply to JCM in 20: Reminder: The people who are demanding to be given "control of the climate" for the entire planet are the same people who have proven over the last half-century-plus that they can neither competently run, nor maintain, recently-built, closed, man-made systems. They cannot maintain the "roads and bridges" they are always prating about; cannot maintain municipal water systems, the public transportation they want to force people to use, the public housing they have built. They cannot, of course, prevent floods, or wildfires (indeed, they have exacerbated those), or tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes or volcanic eruptions---and they have proven incapable of competently conducting responses to or relief from those disasters. They cannot say what the optimum "climate" is for the planet, let alone why they believe it to be a certain thing; they cannot explain how they will exert the control necessary to maintain it. Yet they demand that they be given carte blanche to impose this control.
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JCM
11/18/2021 8:22:06 AM
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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 21: Those failures... because the wrong people did it! Biden, now he's the right person! *pardon me while I gag*
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Occasional Reader
11/18/2021 8:32:20 AM
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Reply to JCM in 20:
Hey Sleepy Joe: King Canute was actually giving a warning, not setting an example.
Insanity.
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Occasional Reader
11/18/2021 8:33:49 AM
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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 21: Here in DC, it takes them a year and a half, minimum, to replace an escalator in a Metro station. But they're going to "control the climate".
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buzzsawmonkey
11/18/2021 8:33:55 AM
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Reply to Occasional Reader in 24: Biden is trying to peddle his own Canute.
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vxbush
11/18/2021 9:36:15 AM
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In #25 Occasional Reader said: Here in DC, it takes them a year and a half, minimum, to replace an escalator in a Metro station. Wow. And everyone has just accepted it as normal that it should take so long to make things work.
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vxbush
11/18/2021 9:44:56 AM
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OR, here's another study about people dying in Sweden with a deeper discussion about comparing the COVID vaccinated group and the unvaccinated group.
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buzzsawmonkey
11/18/2021 9:57:37 AM
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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 29: I can remember when cameras---all cameras---were banned from courtrooms because of the possibility of prejudice and incitement from edited films.
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Kosh's Shadow
11/18/2021 10:07:37 AM
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In #30 buzzsawmonkey said: I can remember when cameras---all cameras---were banned from courtrooms because of the possibility of prejudice and incitement from edited films. The news organizations had artists to draw scenes from the courtroom. I remember that.
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Occasional Reader
11/18/2021 10:32:19 AM
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Reply to vxbush in 28: I really, really do not like the feeling of living in a dystopian science-fiction novel.
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Occasional Reader
11/18/2021 10:35:23 AM
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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 29:
I hope the judge has that JNOV typed up and ready to roll.
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vxbush
11/18/2021 10:40:23 AM
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In #32 Occasional Reader said: I really, really do not like the feeling of living in a dystopian science-fiction novel. Oh, I'm right there with you.
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buzzsawmonkey
11/18/2021 10:48:32 AM
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In #32 Occasional Reader said: I really, really do not like the feeling of living in a dystopian science-fiction novel.
Everybody misheard: it wasn't "Hope and Change," but "Dystope and Change."
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Alice in Dairyland
11/18/2021 11:04:49 AM
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Kenosha Schools Go Virtual During Rittenhouse Deliberations Sounds like they're afraid of the "mostly peaceful" demonstrations that will follow. I wonder if they came up with this plan on their own or was attendance down so low they had to. I certainly wouldn't have sent my kids out there, but then I wouldn't even live in Kenosha in the first place.
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Occasional Reader
11/18/2021 12:02:04 PM
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Reply to Alice in Dairyland in 36:
Perhaps we conservatives should take up the practice of rioting when we don't get verdicts (or other outcomes) that we want. It's a tactic that seems to work, isn't it?
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Alice in Dairyland
11/18/2021 12:07:43 PM
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Reply to Occasional Reader in 37: Worked out real well on Jan 6th, just ask the folks sitting in DC Gitmo.
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Occasional Reader
11/18/2021 12:31:48 PM
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In #38 Alice in Dairyland said: Worked out real well on Jan 6th, just ask the folks sitting in DC Gitmo.
Devil's Advocate: That just means it needs to get scaled up, bigly.
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Alice in Dairyland
11/18/2021 3:03:14 PM
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Good grief, end of the third day and still no verdict. Woman jurist asks judge if she and can take the juror instructions home with her and he allows it. I still can't believe they're not sequestered. MSNBC followed one home last night. This whole thing is unbelievable.
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JCM
11/18/2021 3:14:18 PM
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Reply to Alice in Dairyland in 40: IMAO opinion the prosecutor's actions have been begging for a mistrial. The media's actions have been begging for a mistrial. Why? The both know the case has no legs. An acquittal will be bad for them. A mistrial is "justice denied". I think the jury is being careful and taking their time. They know they will be under a microscope. Or the left got a couple ringers seated and they are hung.
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Alice in Dairyland
11/18/2021 3:52:48 PM
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In #41 JCM said: Or the left got a couple ringers seated and they are hung. Rittenhouse's lawyer stated he thinks it 6/6 right now. Don't know why he thinks this.
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JCM
11/18/2021 4:37:53 PM
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Reply to Alice in Dairyland in 42: I honestly don't see how there could be any question. But I would, if on the jury, want to go through the evidence.
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