vxbush 3/3/2022 6:41:53 AM

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Kosh's Shadow 3/3/2022 7:03:21 AM

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Reply to vxbush in 1:

Was working for me, but it looks like the site it is a link to is down now

vxbush 3/3/2022 7:13:17 AM

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In #2 Kosh's Shadow said: Was working for me, but it looks like the site it is a link to is down now

Clearly, said site was a Russian asset. 

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Occasional Reader 3/3/2022 8:31:38 AM

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vxbush 3/3/2022 9:27:07 AM

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In #4 Occasional Reader said: So, it seems that the Rooskies are switching from "let's try a fast and light precision strike, American-style" (more or less), to "let's just shell everything, like we usually do". 

I read some articles last night about the situation--some from this last week, some about Russia and Ukraine generally from the last 4-5 years--and this change in warfare was predicted. 

JCM 3/3/2022 10:41:28 AM

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Grain of salt, 48 hour rule, yadda yadda yadda.

Top Russian general is killed by Ukrainian sniper as Kyiv claims 9,000 of Putin’s troops have died during invasion

Getting the general more likely, easier to verify. 9K troops?? even if it half that.... whoa....

JCM 3/3/2022 10:42:36 AM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 4:

Quantity has a quality all its own.

Stalin

Occasional Reader 3/3/2022 11:15:02 AM

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In #6 JCM said: 9K troops?? even if it half that.... whoa....

Per an Insty link, the Russians themselves are saying about 500 of their own KIA.

Even if they're lowballing (which is likely)... compare 500 KIA in 8 days of combat, to US casualties in 2003 or 1991 in Iraq.  That's STILL  a lot.  This is no cakewalk for the Rooskies, even by their own admission. 

Kosh's Shadow 3/3/2022 11:37:35 AM

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One of the first things Russia did was take Chernobyl; now they are taking another nuclear plant.

A while ago, PJMedia suggested Putin would set off a dirty bomb in Russia and blame it on Ukraine, giving him an excuse to really destroy the country. Taking Ukrainian plants would let him use material that he could say was from Ukraine (because it is, but taken by Russia).

Discuss

Occasional Reader 3/3/2022 11:41:01 AM

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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 9:

Not that I wouldn't put it past Putin in terms of ruthlessness, but that plan seems rather clumsy.  Dirty bomb, with materials traced to Chernobyl... when Russia is known to have taken over Chernobyl. 

JCM 3/3/2022 11:43:24 AM

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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 9:

I'm seeing reports of increased radiation from Chernobyl, of course no figures to quantify the levels, just increased. But the working theory is military vehicles in the exclusion zone kicking up dust.

Kosh's Shadow 3/3/2022 12:11:07 PM

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In #10 Occasional Reader said: Not that I wouldn't put it past Putin in terms of ruthlessness, but that plan seems rather clumsy.  Dirty bomb, with materials traced to Chernobyl... when Russia is known to have taken over Chernobyl. 

I think it is crude, too, and dismissed the initial idea, but then why take over another nuclear plant? And some statements from the Russians are now making Soviet propaganda look believable. An example:

Russian envoy compares Ukraine to Nazi Germany at UNHRC

Ukrainian actions are akin to those of Nazi Germany, Russian Ambassador to the United Nations Gennady Gatilov charged at an urgent debate on the eight-day-old war between the two countries.

When the Ukrainian regime seized power in a coup in 2014, Gatilov charged, “in the best traditions of Nazi Germany” they “set about destroying the Russian-speaking population of the country.”

He further alleged that “dozens of people burned alive at the Trade Union House in Odessa.” There were, he further charged, “snipers’ shooting of peaceful protesters” and “the brutal massacres of dissenters throughout Ukraine.”

The Russian-speaking people in the Ukrainian region fear extermination, he added.

Kosh's Shadow 3/3/2022 1:13:35 PM

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Russian citizens reportedly flee country over fears of Putin's martial law announcement

And Russian citizens have broadly started to panic as the Duma, Russia’s governing body, meets Thursday to lay out new legislation that may allow it to conscript anyone arrested for protesting the invasion – a number that stood at over 8000 as of Thursday evening, according to independent watchdog OVD-info. 

Occasional Reader 3/3/2022 1:24:38 PM

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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 13:

Wow, won't those make some highly-motivated troops, eh?

Russia had a real chance to be a more or less "normal" country.  Putin and his gang seem intent on turning it instead into scaled-up North Korea. 

JCM 3/3/2022 1:29:21 PM

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Reply to Occasional Reader in 14:

They are doing Communism "right" this time.

/s

Kosh's Shadow 3/3/2022 1:58:03 PM

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In #14 Occasional Reader said: Wow, won't those make some highly-motivated troops, eh?

Putin knows how to motivate them. They'll have family still in Russia.

lucius septimius 3/3/2022 3:00:34 PM

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In #7 JCM said: Quantity has a quality all its own. Stalin

Sounds more like Yogi Berra.

Kosh's Shadow 3/3/2022 4:00:05 PM

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Oh, the bear has
Big teeth dear
And he shows them
Open wide

Just some nukes has
Vlad'mir Putin
And he keeps them out in sight

When the bear bites
With his teeth dear
Scarlet billows
start to spread

Propaganda
Has Vlad'mir Putin
To pretend
He's not a Red

Kosh's Shadow 3/3/2022 4:00:57 PM

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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 18:

That is, of course, from the Three Ruble Opera

lucius septimius 3/3/2022 4:25:03 PM

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In #19 Kosh's Shadow said: That is, of course, from the Three Ruble Opera

It used to be the Three Kopek Opera, but that was before inflation.

buzzsawmonkey 3/3/2022 4:26:00 PM

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In #19 Kosh's Shadow said: That is, of course, from the Three Ruble Opera

+++++++++++++++++++++

Not "3-Kopeck?"

buzzsawmonkey 3/3/2022 4:28:11 PM

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In #20 lucius septimius said: Three Kopek Opera

Karel Capek Kopeck was supposed to write the libretto, but the producers thought that he'd tried to robot the wrong way...

Kosh's Shadow 3/3/2022 4:29:06 PM

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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 21:

Should have been kopek, but ...

Already reposted in the pub thread, which uses a picture from a Ukrainian pub.

Kosh's Shadow 3/3/2022 4:32:31 PM

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Nuclear plant on fire after Russian attack. 

Scorched nuked earth policy

Serious war crimes charges at this point. The ICC has even dropped their anti-Israel work to investigate; that's how bad it is.