vxbush 10/19/2022 6:16:39 AM

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While not confirmed, it looks like the CDC vaccine group is planning to put the COVID shots on the list of required shots for children during a meeting tomorrow.

The decision has nothing to do with the efficacy of the shots, methinks, but a whole lot more on protecting the companies making these shots by making them required for children. Companies that give shots to minors that are required by the government are protected from liability. And it seems like drug manufacturers have no interest in being liable for their bad products.  

And yet Maddie de Garay, who was a child who was part of the clinical trial of the vaccine for children, suffered horrific side effects that the CDC has not even investigated at all. All the doctors tell her these symptoms are in her head. 

vxbush 10/19/2022 6:17:36 AM

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Reply to vxbush in 1:

I really don't like the tone of that article, but it's a decent summary of what Maddie agreed to do and what happened. It's still missing key information, though. But I need to go do a setup that is going to take some time today and wanted to point this out. 

Alice in Dairyland 10/19/2022 6:42:30 AM

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vxbush 10/19/2022 6:49:36 AM

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vxbush 10/19/2022 8:23:48 AM

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In #3 Alice in Dairyland said: Stores and other businesses here haven't required them for a long, long time now, but I didn't think doctor offices or hospitals would ever drop the mask requirement, even after the PADEMIC was declared over.

They are still masking up in doctors' offices and hospitals here, and there are still loads of people with masks on. 

Occasional Reader 10/19/2022 8:36:31 AM

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Reply to vxbush in 4:

NO! WAY!

Alice in Dairyland 10/19/2022 8:53:23 AM

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In #5 vxbush said: there are still loads of people with masks on. 

I see a few people with masks on still, but the majority don't wear them.  In Sam's Club yesterday there was a young couple masked up and their two children were in totally enclosed strollers.  Those poor kids couldn't even see their surroundings.  Back in the olden times you would have gotten thrown in jail and your kids taken away if you locked 'em up the attic or cellar.  I don't see how this is much different.  Those poor children.  How are they ever supposed to fit into a world they can't even see?

buzzsawmonkey 10/19/2022 8:58:46 AM

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In #7 Alice in Dairyland said: Those poor children.  How are they ever supposed to fit into a world they can't even see?

It's the Kaspar Houser school of child-rearing.

buzzsawmonkey 10/19/2022 9:12:35 AM

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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 8:

Sorry, that should be "Kaspar Hauser."

Alice in Dairyland 10/19/2022 9:15:40 AM

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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 8:

It sure sounds like it.  

vxbush 10/19/2022 9:23:32 AM

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In #8 buzzsawmonkey said: It's the Kaspar Houser school of child-rearing.

Do I want to know how you picked up that tidbit? I had never heard of it until now. 

JCM 10/19/2022 9:28:50 AM

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Reply to Alice in Dairyland in 3:

We have pretty heavy smoke from wildfires. We also still have a large number of people wearing masks around.

I'm tempted to ask them, "Is the mask for the smoke or Covid?"

If they say covid, then ask, "Can you smell the smoke?" (I know you can smell the smoke through the mask), if they say yes then tell them if you smell the smoke the smoke particle is getting through the mask, and virus is much smaller than smoke particle.

If they say for the smoke, and they can smell it.... it's not working.

buzzsawmonkey 10/19/2022 9:30:10 AM

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Reply to vxbush in 11:

There is, I believe, a play about Kaspar Hauser; in any event, I heard about his case in college, in connection with something related to the drama crowd.

Alice in Dairyland 10/19/2022 10:12:13 AM

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In #11 vxbush said: I had never heard of it until now. 

I had to look it up also.  Ya learn something new every day around here!

doppelganglander 10/19/2022 10:48:29 AM

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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 13:

I learned about Kaspar Hauser from the People's Almanac by Irving Wallace and David Wallechinsky. It's a mix of obscure and useful information and left-wing nonsense, which I didn't recognize when I was 14, but fascinating nonetheless.

buzzsawmonkey 10/19/2022 10:58:31 AM

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Reply to doppelganglander in 15:

My late father always said that it is important to have a substantial fund of non-essenetial information.

doppelganglander 10/19/2022 11:15:27 AM

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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 16:

Well, all those childhood hours with almanacs and encyclopedias certainly paid off for me.

Occasional Reader 10/19/2022 11:52:42 AM

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In #16 buzzsawmonkey said: My late father always said that it is important to have a substantial fund of non-essenetial information.

My dad says the same, except he says "useless" instead of "non-essential". 

Occasional Reader 10/19/2022 11:55:24 AM

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In #12 JCM said: and virus is much smaller than smoke particle.

Yes, but; it's not generally free-floating viruses in the air, they're attached to bit of mucus, saliva, etc. 

buzzsawmonkey 10/19/2022 12:21:43 PM

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In #18 Occasional Reader said: My dad says the same, except he says "useless" instead of "non-essential". 

Well, if it comes in handy, it's not really "useless," is it?  

I know I've posted one or two things here that draw together disparate, or seemingly-disparate, factoids which show the source of what appear to be unrelated references.  For instance, I was urging a friend the other day to see "42nd Street" (he'd never seen it), and mentioned in passing that when the chorus girls are lining up for the casting call and are told to hike their skirts so the director can see their legs, Ginger Rogers heaves a sigh and says, "Not a calf in a carload," which is a riff on the then- and later-current slogan for Old Gold cigarettes, "Not a Cough in a Carload."  Important?  Not really---but it's nice knowing the reference. 

Occasional Reader 10/19/2022 12:29:31 PM

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In #20 buzzsawmonkey said: Well, if it comes in handy, it's not really "useless," is it?  

Well, it's useless information, supposed to fire our imaginations... I can't GET NO...  no no no... 

JCM 10/19/2022 12:31:13 PM

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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 16:

I like that!

I found that it is true, what seems to be obscure trivial turns out to be useful in the oddest places.

JCM 10/19/2022 12:35:21 PM

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Pardon me! Is your desperation showing?

Biden administration to tap oil reserve again ahead of midterms

Occasional Reader 10/19/2022 12:57:33 PM

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In #23 JCM said: Biden administration to tap oil reserve again ahead of midterms

It's telling that even Politico describes the timing as "ahead of midterms".

buzzsawmonkey 10/19/2022 1:32:50 PM

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Reply to JCM in 23: Reply to Occasional Reader in 24:

Joe Biden had terrible grades in law school.  It's no surprise he's screwing up as he studies for his midterms.

Alice in Dairyland 10/19/2022 4:52:31 PM

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buzzsawmonkey 10/19/2022 4:57:13 PM

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Reply to Alice in Dairyland in 26:

Dentists always hand out full-sized candy bars.

Alice in Dairyland 10/19/2022 5:00:45 PM

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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 27:

Make sense, job security!

Kosh's Shadow 10/19/2022 6:20:07 PM

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When MSNBC picks an expert on "antisemitism" they certainly know how to pick them!

MSNBC’s Medhi Hasan was blasted for turning to U.S. congresswoman Ilhan Omar as a commentator on Jew-hatred when she herself has promoted antisemitic conspiracy theories, pushed the dual loyalty canard, and incited animosity towards Jews in the U.S. and Israel.

Kosh's Shadow 10/19/2022 6:30:23 PM

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After Kanye West's Jew-hating statements, I'm not a fan (never was), and Trump's support for him is pushing me to support DeSantis (who has a better chance of winning, I think)

But this one makes me want to get out the popcorn:

George Floyd’s family preps $250M suit against Kanye West for overdose comments 

The mother of George Floyd’s daughter says she plans to file a $250 million defamation lawsuit against Kanye West for suggesting that Floyd died of a fentanyl overdose, lawyers announced Tuesday.

Kosh's Shadow 10/19/2022 7:15:27 PM

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Occasional Reader 10/19/2022 7:54:22 PM

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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 29:

It’s like when the UN puts Iran, North Korea, etc. on the Human Rights Council.

Occasional Reader 10/19/2022 7:55:29 PM

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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 30:

Uh, lady? You can’t “defame” the dead.  

Kosh's Shadow 10/19/2022 8:12:08 PM

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In #33 Occasional Reader said: You can’t “defame” the dead.  

Tell that to Jerry Garcia/////

Jukebox

Kosh's Shadow 10/19/2022 8:36:29 PM

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Occasional Reader 10/19/2022 8:37:40 PM

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buzzsawmonkey 10/19/2022 8:58:04 PM

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In #33 Occasional Reader said: Uh, lady? You can’t “defame” the dead.  

Not entirely sure about that; defamation is a tort, and so is the right of privacy/publicity.  New York does not have a right of privacy/publicity that survives after death, but California and Indiana, among other places, do; I don't know about Minnesota.  It is possible that in a jurisdiction which has a surviving right of privacy/publicity, the courts might hear a defamation action against someone who's deceased.