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                                             Good morning. Ecuador used to be a relatively safe country (by Latin American standards); I felt pretty comfortable when I'd go to Quito on business. Now, it's looking like Colombia in the mid 1980s. The national homicide rate has also more than tripled since 2020.  
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                                                    8/10/2023 8:04:20 AM
                                                 
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                                             Reply to Occasional Reader in 1:  
 
 More on that. 
 
  
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                                                    JCM
                                                    
                                                    8/10/2023 8:41:37 AM
                                                 
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                                             Reply to Occasional Reader in 1:  I was reading some on Jalisco New Generation Cartel the other day. Makes MS13 look like choirboys, not really, but you get my point. They are just in it for the drug profits. There are in business for power and will do ANYTHING for it, and pure terror is their favorite tool. 
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                                                    JCM
                                                    
                                                    8/10/2023 8:53:06 AM
                                                 
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                                             Reply to JCM in 3:  Not in it just for drug profits.
 
  
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                                                    8/10/2023 9:02:14 AM
                                                 
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 In #3 JCM said: Jalisco New Generation Sounds like a fun, youth-oriented ad campaign.... but, yeah, it's not.
 
  
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                                                    8/10/2023 10:01:47 AM
                                                 
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                                             Reply to JCM in 6:  This story is not being covered in Seattle MSM.
 
  
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                                                    lucius septimius
                                                    
                                                    8/10/2023 10:25:06 AM
                                                 
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                                             Reply to Occasional Reader in 1:  Years ago I had a delightful student from Equador.  She's the only person I've ever known to have shot and killed anyone outside of war.  She was defending the family home from attack.
 
  
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                                                    8/10/2023 12:04:50 PM
                                                 
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 In #8 lucius septimius said: from Equador From WHERE?! 
 
 /sorry, it was just lying there
 
  
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                                                    8/10/2023 12:07:14 PM
                                                 
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 In #8 lucius septimius said: She was defending the family home from attack. And she couldn't have instead engaged the so-called "attackers" in peaceful dialogue, to discover the root causes of their rage and frustration?  (Which was almost certainly... the effects of white supremacy.) 
 
  
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                                                    8/10/2023 4:46:15 PM
                                                 
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                                             Reply to JCM in 12:  Joe Biden is so bad and incompetent, I'd vote for Christie should he be the Republican nominee.
 
  
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                                             Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 13:  With a clothespin on my nose!
 
  
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                                                    8/10/2023 4:56:36 PM
                                                 
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                                             Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 13: Reply to JCM in 14:  Mere incompetence and policy fecklessness would be a vast improvement over the financial and legal corruption of the current regime.
 
 
  
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                                                    Kosh's Shadow
                                                    
                                                    8/10/2023 5:09:17 PM
                                                 
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 In #12 JCM said: Biden signed the pen. Joe Buy-den should be IN the pen.
 
  
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                                                    8/10/2023 5:50:33 PM
                                                 
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 In #16 Kosh's Shadow said: Joe Buy-den should be IN the pen.
  I'd prefer to see him smeared with honey and staked out on an anthill, but yeah. 
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