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JCM
2/1/2025 8:49:33 AM
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Reply to vxbush in 2: Reply to vxbush in 3: Trump learned the first time. Hostile Business take over, that's it exactly.
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Kosh's Shadow
2/1/2025 8:51:11 AM
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In #3 vxbush said: Trump, in 2024, is doing what he was built for. A hostile takeover of a bankrupt and failing business. That's what the voting shareholders brought him in for. And isn't his tag line "You're FIRED"
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Kosh's Shadow
2/1/2025 8:54:09 AM
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In #5 JCM said: It's only one of the holes in the swiss cheese. Yes. If the ATC had been at full staff, the chances the helicopter was off its course and altitude most likely would have been noticed. Also, that is something computers could detect and let the controllers know about, but ATC funding is controlled by Congress and government rules, so it is behind many other countries, which made ATC an independent organization funded by user feesl
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JCM
2/1/2025 9:13:22 AM
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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 8: Publish ATC radar tapes show a red CA on both aircraft for Collision Alert. That's when the Controller asks the helo if they have a visual on the CRJ. The helo confirms they have a visual on the CRJ and ask for "visual separation" which means they are taking responsibility for the separation between aircraft. The helo then turns toward the CRJ. This lead the analysts I trust to think that the CRJ was in the city background lights and hard to see and the helo crew had focus on the plane behind the CRJ. If the helo crew was on night vision goggles it would have been even more difficult for them to see. Given the helo crews work load, the focus on traffic separation it's not hard to imagine them drifting up a hundred feet or so while so occupied.
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Kosh's Shadow
2/1/2025 9:40:19 AM
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Reply to JCM in 9: So we are back to if there had been 2 controllers, the helicopter one would have been able to see the helicopter going off course and altitude, but with one controller, it was missed because the controller had to split attention.
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JCM
2/1/2025 9:49:54 AM
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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 10: That's just one of the holes. It appears so. Both the tower and helo crew were in a task saturation situation. We don't know yet if the tower situation lead to the change of runway for the CRJ. The CRJ was shifted runway 1 to runway 33 because the separation from the plane in front of it. Would a full tower crew been able to see the developing issue there and have the plane in front speed up, and tell the CRJ to slow down enough to maintain the separation? This would have meant the CRJ never sidestepped to runway 33 and been in conflict with the CRJ. The first set of holes does appear to be tower staffing.
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Kosh's Shadow
2/1/2025 1:06:58 PM
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In #11 JCM said: The first set of holes does appear to be tower staffing. It appears trying to meet DEI quotas has caused staffing problems Sen. Markwayne Mullin, R-Okla., told "Fox News Live" Saturday that the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) Academy in Oklahoma has struggled to fill classrooms due to DEI quotas. "Where the FAA air traffic controllers get trained is right here inside of Oklahoma, in Oklahoma City," Mullin said. "That's their training hub and I will tell you we were having a hard time filling the classes because of DEI." "Instead of these classes being 100% full, we were at 80% or 70%, and it wasn't from the lack of individuals applying for it except for each class had a ratio that they had to have on it," the senator said.
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JCM
2/1/2025 3:57:31 PM
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Looking at the data from the Philadelphia crash of the Lear 55 Air Ambulance. It bears all the hallmarks of a spatial disorientation case. Enters clouds at a good rate of ascent, starts the right hand turn as instructed. But then enters a left hand turn, This turn gets sharper, and then the rate of descent increase as the left turn gets tighter. Airspeeds were well above stall the type of aircraft, a banking stall can have similar characteristics.
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Kosh's Shadow
2/1/2025 4:05:59 PM
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Reply to JCM in 13: Fox news had someone who said that there might have been a stall either due to spatial disorientation or maybe cargo (stretcher?) was loose and moved back, making the center of gravity too far back to recover from the stall. That article is no longer on Fox main page Other articles say there was a fire in the back; maybe an oxygen tank exploded. I don't know. The company says the plane was in perfect condition. But in a previous position, I might have been needed in a facility where there were aircraft, so I had to take training. FOD was a BIG problem, EVEN when the plane was sent to an approved maintenance facility. Like finding an alcohol spray bottle in a jet engine nacelle.
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JCM
2/1/2025 4:33:42 PM
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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 14: Whatever it was happened fast. Pilots made no mayday calls.
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Kosh's Shadow
1/31/2025 6:02:25 PM
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In #13 buzzsawmonkey said: Reply to Occasional Reader in 11: Seeing as how you've got a young son, and your period of employment is terminating, it would be appropriate for you to acquire a vintage poster for Fisk tires; their early-20th-century advertisements showed a young man in nightgown and nightcap, holding a candleholder with a lit candle in one hand, and an auto tire slung over his other shoulder, beneath which was the slogan, "Time to Re-Tire." 
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vxbush
2/1/2025 6:08:13 AM
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Trump’s 5-D Chess: How Mass Firings Are Freezing the Deep State There is a lot of great red meat in this article, but here is, I think, the most important paragraph: Finally, take a moment to consider how much work was invested in carefully charting all these myriad agencies and, one by one, figuring out which bureaucrats to yank. They had it all ready to go on day one. That precise kind of detail and planning is what the Democrats now face. So it is unsurprising they remain in response mode, where they’ll stay until they can figure out what the heck is going on. First, It clearly is the Trump team that is pulling this off, not Trump himself. He may have had the idea, but the team had to figure out the process and people to let go. I want to give Trump credit for the idea or the request and the hiring of his team, but it took many people to make this happen. Second, they needed to know who were the people who would resist Trump the most. That implies either a huge network of informants or people with serious connections in the government, perhaps even fed employees across the government who hated the theatrics and resistance of the Dems. I don’t know how, but a serious inventory of the senior staff was done. But also note the planning aspect. How long has this been in the works? Does it go back to his first administration? Did they identify people there who would be an issue and started prepping this maneuver then? And finally—THIS is what an executive does.
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vxbush
2/1/2025 7:44:54 AM
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