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JCM
7/30/2025 7:24:47 AM
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Reply to vxbush in 1: Why do you hate dead people? /-;
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vxbush
7/30/2025 7:42:36 AM
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I remember there was a decision a few weeks ago about NOT doing this. So how did Microsoft do it anyway? The timeline needs to be investigated…..
Did Microsoft Hand China Front Row Access to the Pentagon? A dangerous Microsoft initiative allowed China-based engineers working for Microsoft access to elements of the software powering our military’s digital infrastructure. And just to really spice things up, this may not have been properly disclosed to the Department of Defense. Grounds for losing all contracts for 20 years, in my book.
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buzzsawmonkey
7/30/2025 10:37:54 AM
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Reply to vxbush in 6: "Artificial intelligence" = genuine stupidity. I suggest that a law be passed that decrees "AI" can only be powered by wind or solar electric generation. That would kill the "AI" idiocy immediately.
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JCM
7/30/2025 11:35:12 AM
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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 7: AI is like the "paperless" office revolution. Instead of keeping documents, people now print them out when they need them, trash them, then print them again when they need them. AI is going to take people to review AI work, fix the mistakes and prevent catastrophic errors. All of which may very well entail more effort than the work itself.
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buzzsawmonkey
7/30/2025 12:18:14 PM
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Reply to JCM in 8: No doubt. I'm merely saying that we've been told AI is a huge energy-sink, which requires vast quantities of electricity to function. Fine: mandate that AI can only be powered by "green, alternative energy" i.e., wind and solar, both of which are grotesquely expensive and extremely unreliable. Such a mandate would kill AI quicker than anything else.
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JCM
7/30/2025 12:40:52 PM
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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 9: A good thing out of this Microsoft and Amazon are both investing in nuclear power for their AI farms. Microsoft is investing in restarting Three Mile Island.
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buzzsawmonkey
7/30/2025 1:29:16 PM
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Reply to JCM in 10: Again: if you want to restrict the electricity sinkhole that is AI, mandate that it can only be powered by "alternative energy." That will nip this abomination in the bud.
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Kosh's Shadow
7/30/2025 1:32:06 PM
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In #8 JCM said: the "paperless" office revolution. I remember probably 40 years ago an interview with the CEO of a paper company. He was asked how the "paperless" office affected the business. He said more paper is being sold, because it is so easy to print out. At home, we have reduced the amount of paper, though.
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Kosh's Shadow
7/30/2025 1:34:41 PM
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In #8 JCM said: AI is going to take people to review AI work, fix the mistakes and prevent catastrophic errors. All of which may very well entail more effort than the work itself. AI-based "vibe" coding has been found to REDUCE programmer productivity because the code needs to be checked. And someone used an AI-based coding system to produce something that included a database. He'd tell it to test and NOT delete the database, but guess what? It doesn't understand DON'T DO, so it sees "delete the database" and finds that fits the query based in its model.
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JCM
7/30/2025 2:18:48 PM
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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 13: In the PCB Design world we've had "auto-routers" for quite a while. Nobody uses them. They have a very narrow use case for repeated similar designs. Take a long time to set one up and write the "rules" so much so a person can manually do the work quicker with less clean up after words. The software companies are trying to incorporate AI but it just has worked well enough yet.
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