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lucius septimius
8/24/2020 5:03:47 PM
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Luxury Beliefs -- I really like this guy's stuff.
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Kosh's Shadow
8/24/2020 5:14:24 PM
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Some good news in the Frontier. Drinks on me tonight
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Kosh's Shadow
8/24/2020 5:15:59 PM
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And a worthy repost from the empty pub last night People are driven to mass movements by “loneliness,” and “lack of normal social relationships,” Arendt explains. The refugee from Nazi Germany describes the irresistible attraction of “the energy and self-abandonment of mass movements” for people who are “bored and isolated” and come to derive their “sense of being in the world from belonging to a movement.” The two great totalitarian movements of the 20th century – Nazism and communism – succeeded by undermining their populations’ faith in their democratic institutions and the structures designed to protect them. Once in power, leaders convinced citizens that their countries’ political systems were flawed and should be discarded along with their constitutions. “It has been frequently pointed out that totalitarian movements use and abuse democratic freedoms in order to abolish them.” Through both intimidation and propaganda, totalitarian leaders succeeded in desensitizing citizens to acts of crime and violence, weakening their regard for moral principles, the laws of self-interest and self-preservation and “even for the most obvious rules of common sense.”
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midwestgak
8/24/2020 5:21:57 PM
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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 3: It is worth rereading. What is frightening to me is how quickly this movement is advancing here.
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Kosh's Shadow
8/24/2020 5:25:18 PM
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In #1 lucius septimius said: Luxury Beliefs -- I really like this guy's stuff. He hit the nail on the head. All the BLM BS won't hurt the affluent that much - they can afford private security. Defunding the police means the poor suffer. And they don't give a f*ck as much as they pretend to.
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Kosh's Shadow
8/24/2020 5:27:07 PM
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In #5 midwestgak said: It is worth rereading. What is frightening to me is how quickly this movement is advancing here.
The speed it is taking over is amazing. I thought we had at least another 10 years, not one. If Trump loses, go watch some of the old movies about a societal collapse to learn what's coming. If he wins, we still get years of riots - but at least fighting back.
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midwestgak
8/24/2020 5:37:25 PM
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In #7 Kosh's Shadow said: go watch some of the old movies about a societal collapse Or recall recent history, Venezuela.
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doppelganglander
8/24/2020 5:47:54 PM
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Reply to lucius septimius in 1: Excellent article. This morning, I was reading a round up of the week's dumbest/strangest/most interesting letters to various advice columns. The one that caught my eye was from a young Korean-American mom. Her mother-in-law wanted the baby (who isn't even speaking yet) to call her Meemaw. She was concerned that this was some kind of cultural appropriation, though she was vague on what culture Meemaw was appropriating. She preferred Oma, because her husband's family has a little bit of German heritage from four generations back (no one was clear on the details). Her own mother, of course, would be called by the Korean name for grandmother. All I could think of is what a miserable creature she must be to worry about that sort of thing. I feel sorry for that child.
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midwestgak
8/24/2020 5:50:13 PM
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In #7 Kosh's Shadow said: If he wins, we still get years of riots - but at least fighting back. And still get the same, hate rhetoric - but a damn good chance to let people grasp the 180° difference policy makes - happening right in front of their everyday not-so-far-away-mayhem-filled lives.
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Kosh's Shadow
8/24/2020 6:04:50 PM
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In #8 midwestgak said: Or recall recent history, Venezuela.
When I was in college, there were three major groups of non-Americans: Kuwaitis, Indians, and Venezuelans. No one liked the Kuwaitis, except the women they seduced. The Indians weren't that great (the good ones went to more prestigious schools) But the Venezuelans were very nice people. I really feel sorry for them and hope the ones I knew got out in time.
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midwestgak
8/24/2020 6:09:11 PM
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In #9 doppelganglander said: All I could think of is what a miserable creature she must be to worry about that sort of thing. A different culture. I have worked for a Philippine-American doctor for 11 years. What is important to her family-wise (petty to me and sometimes 7th century subservience) boggles my mind. A cultural difference.
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doppelganglander
8/24/2020 6:48:59 PM
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Reply to midwestgak in 12: Maybe, but it came across more as overeducated, SJW, woke nonsense. I got the distinct impression that she saw the term Meemaw as lower class. The advice columnist told her to get over herself (though she put it more politely than that). My kids wanted my granddaughter to call me Granny - I didn't love it, but it's what they called my mother. When she started talking, she called me Grandma. Kids will just do what they're gonna do.
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midwestgak
8/24/2020 7:14:14 PM
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In #13 doppelganglander said: When she started talking, she called me Grandma. Kids will just do what they're gonna do. ;) About that. No doubt.
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lucius septimius
8/24/2020 7:44:02 PM
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In #9 doppelganglander said: Excellent article. Something I would add is that this is the quintessentially bourgeois attitude -- despite all their best efforts to appear proletarian or whatever, the wokestapo at every step reveal their bourgie character. This goes all the way back to the late Middle Ages and the emergence of the bourgeoisie as a self-conscious class (it's somewhere in my book).
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doppelganglander
8/24/2020 7:59:11 PM
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Reply to lucius septimius in 15: The one you're working on now or the previous one?
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@PBJ3
8/24/2020 8:31:32 PM
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The Frontier doesn't seem to like me but I'm logged in and posting. I'm sorry I couldn't get here sooner. I have been having to water my lawn by hand and it takes awhile. I was able to catch the last two speakers at the Republican National Convention. I hope the first lady has not given her speech yet, I want to hear it. I've heard it is supposed to be good.
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