The Liberty Pub

The Liberty Pub

Posted on 08/18/2021 5.00 PM

Kosh's Shadow 8/15/2021 3:25:01 PM


Posted by: Kosh's Shadow

buzzsawmonkey 8/18/2021 5:07:19 PM
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The Managers

—WH Auden, 1948

 

In the bad old days it was not so bad:

The top of the ladder
Was an amusing place to sit; success

Meant quite a lot—leisure

And huge meals, more palaces filled with more

Objects, books, girls, horses

Than one would ever get round to, and to be

Carried uphill while seeing

Others walk.  To rule was a pleasure when

One wrote a death-sentence 

On the back of the Ace of Spades and played on

With a new deck.  Honors

Are not so physical or jolly now,

For the species of Powers

We are used to are not like that. Could one of them

Be said to resemble
The Tragic Hero, the Platonic Saint,

Or would any painter

Portray one arising triumphant from a lake

On a dolphin, naked,

Protected by an umbrella of cherubs? Can

They so much as manage

To behave like genuine Caesars when alone

Or drinking with cronies,

To let their hair down and be frank about 

The world? It is doubtful.

The last word on how we may live or die

Rests today with such quiet

Men, working too hard in rooms that are too big,

Reducing to figures

What is the matter, what is to be done.

A neat little luncheon 

Of sandwiches is brought to each on a tray,
Nourishment they are able

To take with one hand without looking up

From papers a couple 

Of secretaries are needed to file, 

From problems no smiling

Can dismiss.  The typewriters never stop

But whirr like grasshoppers 

In the silent siesta heat as, frivolous

Across their discussions,

From woods unaltered by our wars and our vows

There drift the scents of flowers

And the songs of birds who will never vote
Or bother to notice

Those distinguishing marks a lover sees

By instinct and policemen

Can be trained to observe.  Far into the night

Their windows burn brightly

And, behind their backs bent over some report,

On every quarter,

For ever like a god or a disease

There on earth the reason

In all its aspects why they are tired, the weak,

The inattentive, seeking

Someone to blame.  If, to recuperate

They go a-playing, their greatness

Encounters the bow of the chef or the glance

Of the ballet-dancer

Who cannot be ruined by any master's fall.

To rule must be a calling, 

It seems, like surgery or sculpture; the fun

Neither love nor money

But taking necessary risks, the test

Of one's own skill, the questions,

If difficult, their own reward.  But then

Perhaps one should mention

Also what must be a comfort as they guess

In times like the present
When guesses can prove so fatally wrong,

The fact of belonging

To the very select indeed, to those

For whom, just supposing 

They do, there will be places on the last

Plane out of disaster.

No; no one is really sorry for their

Heavy gait and careworn

Look, nor would they thank you if you said you were.

Kosh's Shadow 8/18/2021 5:22:36 PM
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In #1 buzzsawmonkey said: When guesses can prove so fatally wrong, The fact of belonging To the very select indeed, to those For whom, just supposing  They do, there will be places on the last Plane out of disaster.



Kosh's Shadow 8/18/2021 5:30:20 PM
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Do the people really in charge in Washington want the Taliban (and IranO to win?

Discuss

buzzsawmonkey 8/18/2021 5:41:36 PM
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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 3:

I think they believe themselves to be immune from the consequences of what they do; the part of Auden's poem you quoted in #2, about "the last plane out of disaster," is what prompted me to post it in the first place, after having read about the general who abandoned Bagram AFB and then flew the country, leaving, of course, many Americans stranded.

I had not realized that this entire clusterfuck is due to Droolin' Joe having wanted to have the troops out of Afghanistan to celebrate the twentieth anniversary of 9/11.  I wonder what the celebratory fireworks are going to look like, now that the Taliban has so much nice new weaponry.

JCM 8/18/2021 5:42:34 PM
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Nobody is posting in today's thread..... Oh, it's 45 minutes after the pub opened.
Kosh's Shadow 8/18/2021 5:51:11 PM
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In #4 buzzsawmonkey said: twentieth anniversary of 9/11.  I wonder what the celebratory fireworks are going to look like, now that the Taliban has so much nice new weaponry.

I'm afraid of the fireworks in the US.

"Shaheed Air flight 911, you are off course heading for Manhattan"

"Allah ackbar we have a nuke!"

buzzsawmonkey 8/18/2021 6:01:12 PM
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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 6:

Well, I got a brand new pair of rocket launchers
You got a nice nukie
Let's launch some ordnance at the infidels
Just 'cause we're jihadis
We've not nothing to worry about
'Cause they still haven't fired Milley
Yeah, I got a brand new pair of rocket launchers
You got a nice nukie...

Occasional Reader 8/18/2021 9:19:54 PM
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Reply to buzzsawmonkey in 1:

Very apt poetry selection.  Depressingly so.



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