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Posted on 06/06/2020 5.00 PM

Kosh's Shadow 5/31/2020 5:55:59 PM


Posted by: Kosh's Shadow

Kosh's Shadow 6/6/2020 5:17:02 PM
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Kosh's Shadow 6/6/2020 5:29:04 PM
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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 1:

From the song: "When Yisroael left Mitzrayim four fifths got left behind"

Tradition says that most of the Israelites in Egypt were sinners attached to Egypt, and they died during the plague of darkness, so they could be buried without the Egyptians seeing.

Rashi (most important Torah commentator) says this was 4/5ths of the Israelites - only 20% left Egypt.

Why do I see something similar in America? 20% being true to Torah; the rest to their twisted version of tikkun olam, repairing the world.

Social justice is not justice. Judges are enjoined from finding for the rich because they are rich, or for the poor because the are poor.

Social "justice" says to find for the poor because they are poor.

lucius septimius 6/6/2020 5:47:21 PM
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In #2 Kosh's Shadow said: 20% being true to Torah; the rest to their twisted version of tikkun olam, repairing the world.

It's the age old dream of hastening the end.

Kosh's Shadow 6/6/2020 5:57:25 PM
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In #3 lucius septimius said: the end.

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buzzsawmonkey 6/6/2020 6:28:44 PM
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Saw at least three people with protest signs out around half an hour before the "curfew" for real people is supposed to take effect.  Supposedly, the Manhattan DA is not prosecuting curfew violators/"protesters"; so what the hell is the point of this nonsense?
Kosh's Shadow 6/6/2020 6:40:21 PM
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In #5 buzzsawmonkey said: so what the hell is the point of this nonsense?

Starting the race war so the swamp gets their rulers back in charge.

Couldn't get Trump on Russiagate. Nor on COVID

Time for race war

buzzsawmonkey 6/6/2020 6:55:51 PM
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I was deeply disappointed to see my rabbi, in his weekly video address, refer to "a senseless murder," in such a way that it was all but certain he was referring to the death of George Floyd.

Was it a tragic death?  Certainly; death itself is tragic, and a possibly-needless death more tragic still.  Was it a "killing," senseless or otherwise?  Probably---though the lack of strangulation as revealed by the autopsy report, along with the presence of both fentanyl and methamphetamine in Floyd's system, plus his own questionable health, suggests it may merely have been a tragic accident. 

But "murder?" Almost certainly not.  What is distressing about the rabbi---a Lubavitcher with deep Crown Heights connections, old enough to remember the Crown Heights riots---using this term is two things.  First, last weekend was Shavuos, the holiday which commemorates the giving of the Ten Commandments, and it is routinely stressed, in Jewish learning, that the commandment usually translated for convenience as "Thou shalt not kill" actually says, "Thou shalt not murder"---and the difference is significant.  To blur the distinction a mere week after Shavuos is disturbing, verging on shocking.

The most bothersome thing about this, however---and the reason I referenced the Crown Heights riots---is that the reason those riots erupted was that New York's premier black talk radio program, and the intermittent stop-press bulletins that interrupted it, called the accidental death of Gavin Cato a "murder" from the get-go, and it was this blatant incitement that helped cause the community to erupt.  The riots over an accidental death falsely labeled a murder led directly to the actual murder of Yankel Rosenbaum.  You would think that on this score alone the rabbi would have chosen his words more carefully.

I know about this element of the Crown Heights riots because at the time I had read an article in Harper's about the black talk-radio show in question and, working in my studio, I had been listening to the show for a couple of days simply to get some fuller understanding of the article.  Purely by happenstance, one of those days was when the car hit Gavin Cato, and I listened with increasingly horrified fascination as the hysteria on the radio mounted.

Occasional Reader 6/6/2020 7:23:48 PM
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In #5 buzzsawmonkey said: Supposedly, the Manhattan DA is not prosecuting curfew violators/"protesters"; so what the hell is the point of this nonsense?

So that they can selectively prosecute people *they don’t like* who are caught on the street after curfew. You know, people like you or me.

Syrah 6/6/2020 7:29:50 PM
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They tried to burn down one of our wally worlds.

The toilet licking antifa wannabe turdlete didn't even bother to wear a face mask, so i think he will end up receiving an invitation to be a long term guest of the state at one of their several striped sun resorts.




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