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vxbush
11/21/2025 5:35:01 AM
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I just want to go back to the middle of Trump's first term in office. Remember back when 4chan--then 8chan--had the mysterious Q posting all the time, supposedly someone from Trump's inner circle? Remember all the weird posts and codes and then the endless posts about Jeffrey Epstein? People swore up and down it was a psyop, a fake, someone making stuff up to make the Trump folks look stupid. Now what do people think? Why on earth has this pedophile stayed on the front page for as long as he has? Is it the latest shiny object being used to distract us--which has been in place for years? I find this fixation in the news on this guy to be truly weird. But I also think more of the stuff revealed by Q has been accurate than has been wrong.
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Occasional Reader
11/21/2025 6:56:10 AM
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Reply to vxbush in 1:
I never really paid much attention to that stuff at the time. I agree that the Epstein fixation seems rather over-the-top, but there does seem to be an element of “where there’s smoke, there’s fire”. Larry Summers’ resignation from the Board of open AI, for instance, seems telling.
(One minor language quibble; technically speaking, as far as I know, Epstein was not a “pedophile“, rather an ephebophile.)
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JCM
11/21/2025 7:29:35 AM
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Reply to vxbush in 1: Epstein fatigue. I always was of the opinion of just do the the data dump and lets see. But transparency in government hasn't been a thing since Adam and Eve put on clothes. Part of me doesn't give a flyin' F. There all corrupt just some less than other. We've been post Constitutional since Woodrow Wilson. It was Edwin Edwards who said, "The only way I can lose this election is if I'm caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy." Well it seems have the population would support either of those as a valid expression of gender. The entire shut down involved one side pointing fingers at the other when the no one. Not one politician, not one media outlet would point out the real issues, spending and failure of anyone to commit to real budget reforms. Epstein in isolation is a issue. However it's currently a shiny squirrel everyone is swinging hoping it hits the target of their choice. Let's call Epstein at worst case what it is. Child sex trafficking for the rich and powerful. Shove all of in a wood chipper... feet first. Meanwhile 60,000 children disappeared into the US during the last few years. In Seattle it is routine to find children being used and abused in the homeless camps. It gets buried with newspeak headlines in the news. Epstein is a symptom, it shows us the oligarchy for what it is. Everyone mutters, throw the bastards out, except mine.
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Kosh's Shadow
11/21/2025 7:45:00 AM
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Reply to vxbush in 1: At this point, Epstein looks worse for the Democrats than Trump - leaked emails show Epstein hated Trump for throwing him out of his clubs. If there really was something, it would have come out Trump's first term. I would say people in both parties were caught up in Epstein's world.
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JCM
11/21/2025 8:04:33 AM
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Weather balloon launched in Washington strikes United Airlines flight, injures pilot SPOKANE, Wash. — A United Airlines Boeing 737-8 diverted to Salt Lake City last month after striking a Washington-based weather balloon at 36,000 feet, showering its flight crew with glass and leaving the captain with minor injuries, according to a National Transportation Safety Board report released on Thursday.
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buzzsawmonkey
11/21/2025 8:13:00 AM
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The whole "Epstein files" brouhaha strikes me as nothing more than Steele Dossier 2.0.
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vxbush
11/21/2025 9:06:16 AM
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In #4 Occasional Reader said: I never really paid much attention to that stuff at the time. I agree that the Epstein fixation seems rather over-the-top, but there does seem to be an element of “where there’s smoke, there’s fire”. Larry Summers’ resignation from the Board of open AI, for instance, seems telling. At the very least, that seems like someone with a guilty conscience trying to protect himself and his family from further inquiry. He's hoping if he steps back it will just go away, and it likely will.
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vxbush
11/21/2025 9:10:55 AM
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In #5 JCM said: The entire shut down involved one side pointing fingers at the other when the no one. Not one politician, not one media outlet would point out the real issues, spending and failure of anyone to commit to real budget reforms. I've seen various comments along the lines of "This is how Schumer got all Democrats fired up to come out and vote for this off-year election" to "Democrats wanted to keep the Obamacare benefits coming to illegal alien voters in Democrat states" to "Waaaah, they just want to poke Trump in the eye." Any one of those or, perhaps, all of them are true. The financial issues we continue to have and our leadership continue to ignore cannot continue. The 50-year mortgage idea was something I first heard described by a financial advisor back in the 2000's as he saw the government debt blossoming. He suggested we would see a $50 trillion dollar debt, multi-trillion dollar year deficits, and the 50-year mortgage. I didn't believe it at the time, but I did note that there was no one seriously looking to fix the underlying issues. Trump's DOGE time is trying to highlight this, but so much of the money is nickel and dime stuff and not the serious payouts that are hurting us. Until we start cutting entitlements, nothing will get better. What politician wants to tell his constituents that some of them are going to lose benefits?
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vxbush
11/21/2025 9:11:33 AM
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In #5 JCM said: Meanwhile 60,000 children disappeared into the US during the last few years. In Seattle it is routine to find children being used and abused in the homeless camps. It gets buried with newspeak headlines in the news. What kind of nation are we, when we can ignore this?????
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vxbush
11/21/2025 9:12:40 AM
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In #6 Kosh's Shadow said: At this point, Epstein looks worse for the Democrats than Trump - leaked emails show Epstein hated Trump for throwing him out of his clubs.
If there really was something, it would have come out Trump's first term. I concur, and I've seen multiple people make this comment about how this would have easily turned up during the election up to Trump's win in 2016--if it existed.
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vxbush
11/21/2025 9:14:19 AM
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In #8 buzzsawmonkey said: The whole "Epstein files" brouhaha strikes me as nothing more than Steele Dossier 2.0. I disagree, if only because Virginia Guiffre's book goes into details about how she was handled off to the likes of Prince Andrew and others. His name is the most recognizable, but without having read her book I haven't yet seen who else comes up.
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vxbush
11/21/2025 9:15:12 AM
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JCM: In today's picture: "Vanilla bean-infused maple syrup"? Is that allowed? That sounds like it could either be amazing or an absolute abomination.
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JCM
11/21/2025 9:18:49 AM
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In #11 vxbush said: What kind of nation are we, when we can ignore this????? Trumps first term he had an EO that set up trafficking as a priority. It was successful. Biden's first day in office he sat in the Oval Office with a stack of EOs and, this is on video, "I don't even know what I'm signing". One of the EOs undid the Trump trafficking program. It pisses me off. You a large number of people running about screaming about slavery that ended 160 years and ignoring slavery in the here in now. Additionally you have people like Pelosi who are in bed with the pedophile "minor attracted persons" MAP lobby. It's thoroughly disgusting, depraved and is a bright flare of the moral decay of the nation.
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JCM
11/21/2025 10:15:29 AM
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Reply to JCM in 15: News this morning... homeless person gets run over on the freeway. Making an assumption that the person is mentally or drug affected. Why are they allowed to roam around and get killed on the freeway? There is money to be made with the homeless. You have all kinds of people making good money, top person in Seattle earns $250k a year, in "homeless" advocacy. These people raison d'être is the homeless "PROBLEM" not a solution. They have no motivation whatsoever to SOLVE homelessness. Then than cushy job, all the money handed out goes away. Tell me how much different is that than a plantation owner in the antebellum South? I shouldn't get this worked up on a Friday.
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JCM
11/21/2025 10:16:38 AM
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Reply to vxbush in 14: It's Trader Joe's.... so the pancakes are gluten free. Notice how I deflected the question! ;-P
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buzzsawmonkey
11/21/2025 10:32:54 AM
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In #16 JCM said: There is money to be made with the homeless. "Ministering to the needs of the homeless/solving the homeless problem" provides full employment for the holders of otherwise-useless "social service" degrees, and creates two captive groups that will vote for the Left---those who earn money by working on "the homeless problem" and those who are dependent upon what these people dispense. The issue of "homelessness" has been with us for forty-some years, during which time it has only gotten larger and worse---which should tell you just what a superb idea it is to start sending "social workers" into various police situations, as is currently being increasingly proposed. "Homelessness" was created by three things; the closing of mental institutions, the shuttering of flophouses and SRO hotels which catered to the functional-but-marginal, and the open-borders immigration policies of the Left. Get rid of the illegals, re-open the mental institutions, and permit flophouses and cheap hotels to re-open, and the problem would largely disappear.
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JCM
11/21/2025 10:37:53 AM
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Reply to JCM in 16: In leftist, socialism, Marxism, Leninism, Maoism... all the wonderful flavors. The INDIVIDUAL'S worth is determined by utility to the State. The homeless their utility is convince taxpayers to give money to the State. Illegal immigration leads straight back to the Cloward-Piven strategy their utility is a burden on the welfare state. The trafficked people are a by-product, when convenient they can be mentioned as cause for more regulation, more taxation. Epstein fits in that an authoritarian leader are often perverts of some degree."I'm the F'n leader I need to have my urges satisfied it helps me rule." So girls and boys are "procured" to me the demand, by being things used and tossed away they fulfil their utility to the state. Abortion is an sacrement to the leftist because it make the individual a "thing" to keep or disposed of as utility demands. This idea goes back to Rousseau, where harmony is achieved by the individual surrendering will to the state.
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Kosh's Shadow
11/21/2025 1:06:48 PM
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In #20 JCM said: 11 teachers, students injured in grizzly bear attack during elementary school trip: cops The bear was upset they didn't bring a pic-a-nic basket.
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Kosh's Shadow
11/21/2025 1:07:47 PM
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Reply to Kosh's Shadow in 21: Last place I worked, both at the main lab and field site, there were sightins of bears. Given what that place is, I think they are smarter than the average bear!
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Occasional Reader
11/21/2025 2:50:37 PM
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Reply to JCM in 20:
Horrible. Both to the physically injured, and for the kids who were traumatized by having to witness this.
It seems to me that if anyone is planning a walk in the woods anywhere near where there might be grizzly bears, bring along bear spray at the very least. It just seems negligent not to.
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Kosh's Shadow
11/21/2025 2:54:26 PM
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Reply to Occasional Reader in 23: We only have black bears here, but one came into the yard just after my wife brought the dogs in OK, I can't resist this joke. Guy goes into a store near the beginning of a wilderness trail. "Are there bears around" "Yup" "Black bears or grizzlys?" "Both" "Do you have those bells to scare bear away? Bear bells" "Yup" "How can you tell what kind of bear is in the area" "Scat" "What does grizzly bear scat have that black bear doesn't?" "Bear bells"
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JCM
11/21/2025 2:56:46 PM
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A park ranger is explaining to a group of tourists that when you’re hiking in the backcountry, wearing bells on your clothing alerts bears to your presence and helps avoid confrontations. Likewise, carrying a can of pepper spray can help ward off a bear, if one were to still attack.
The ranger also explains that learning to tell the difference between the poop of a black bear and the poop of brown bear (aka grizzly bear) can also be beneficial to hikers. Black bear poop tends to have lots of berries of in it, for instance.
But what about the grizzly poop, the tourists ask.
“Oh,” says the ranger, “you’ll know brown bear poop because it smells like pepper and has lots of little bells in it.” |
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Kosh's Shadow
11/21/2025 4:14:06 PM
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Reply to JCM in 25: GMTA
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